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*** We're going to use this thread as the general Kia Stinger informational thread including posting the install guide, mapping guide, software, firmware updates as we release them, logs, and general discussion. ***

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By default the JB4 ships on map1. For higher boost map, logging, firmware updates, and other features, you'll need a JB4 Mobile adapter for wireless connection to your phone or a BMS data cable for wired connection to a laptop.

JB4 Mobile Smart Phone wireless connection directions Click here.
BMS data cable hard wired directions and windows software Click here.

Installation guide Click Here

Map guide as of v5 firmware (selected via JB4 Mobile/laptop interface. Map1 is the default map)

Map 0: JB4 disabled
Map 1: 4psi over stock peak tapering to 2.5psi at high RPM. Default performance map suitable for all 91+ octane fuels.
Map 2: 5psi over stock tapering to 4psi at high RPM. Suggested for 93+ octane fuel.
Map 3: 6psi stock tapering to 5psi at high RPM. Suggested for high quality fuel including unleaded race gas, ethanol mixtures up to 30%, or high quality octane booster like Torco or Boostane.
Map 4: Valet map, runs around half as much boost as stock.
Map 5: Up to 7psi over stock. For use with unleaded race fuel and/or E85 mixtures up to 30%.
Map 6: User adjustable map. Enter value of boost over stock by RPM on user adjustment page.
Map 7: Up to 7psi over stock but without top end taper. For unleaded race fuel use and bolt on modifications. May not be suitable for E85 mixtures due to high fuel pressure dropping. If using this map on E85 you should be experienced at reading your own logs and evaluating ignition advance and fuel pressure.
Map 8: Progressive WMI (water/meth) map. Increases boost as a function of methanol flow & methanol boost additive. Holds boost low until WMI is flowing to avoid tip-in knock, and reduces boost as a function of WMI flow in the event of interruption like running out of fluid, leak, or component failure.

Firmware:

v10

1) Revised logic for Options bit7 (more linear pedal mapping).
2) Revised boost scaling up in JB4 logs 0.75psi.
3) Revised fuel mapping 0.25:1 richer peak.

v9

1) Changes to logging for 2L models. Water temp, road speed, and fuel pressure are now active.
2) Enabled WMI PWM control for those running large nozzles that need less flow at lower RPM.

v8

1) Enabled over boost and run lean safety systems. Value "last safety" will be stored in the event of a failsafe for later analysis in the read only area of the JB4 user adjustment page.
b) Over boost safety: If boost exceeds value entered under "boost safety" on the user adjustment page (default value of 20psi) for more than a second under heavy throttle JB4 will revert to map0 (stock tuning).
b) Run lean safety: If air/fuel ratio in either bank exceeds 15:1 for more than a second under heavy throttle the JB4 will revert to map0 (stock tuning).
2) Revised CANbus to add cylinder 2-6 raw timing advance. Although early days we expect this data to further help customers when doing custom tuning, exploring the power limits of various fuels and modifications, and to become a backbone of the upcoming JB4 auto tuning logic we're working on. This logging can be disabled by setting FutureUseD bit4 on.
3) Added option for a more linear pedal input to boost profile mapping. The default pedal mapping is FutureUseD bit7 OFF, while setting FutureUseD bit7 ON enables the more linear input mapping.

v7

1) Added double-PID fuel control algorithm which provides a nice improvement in dynamic AFR control over the previous single offset algorithm. In JB4 logs fuel enrichment reflects the bias for bank1 while "calc tq" reflects the bias for bank2.
2) Made a test adjustment to the passive delete function. Some have reported a momentary "pause" during startup cranking. Reversed change in BETA3 as it didn't fix problem. If you have this issue pressing ignition button once before starting car may help.
3) Adjusted JB4 interface such that fuel bias values no longer need to be entered for fuel control to be active. They can all be set to 0, or left at previous settings, because they will be ignored unless you enable "manual" AFR tuning under FutureUseD bit1. NOTE if not using fuel control wires no changes are needed but logging of AFR will not be accurate unless setting FutureUseD bit 0 on.

v6

1) Fixed bug with boost by gear kicking in under low throttle, will only phase in over 70% throttle now.
2) Revised pedal input mapping for smoother and stronger partial throttle performance, and less throttle closure during shifts.
3) Adjustments to map boost profiles.
4) Revised fuel control algorithm.

v5

1) Revised boost by gear logic for improved traction on RWD vehicles. You can now set gears below the factory boost levels if needed. For each gear enter the amount of boost reduction you want. For example, 8.0psi would reduce boost by 8psi in 1st gear. In our development non-LSD GT we've been testing 8psi in 1st and 2psi in 2nd with good success.
2) Added progressive water/meth map map8. Requires WMI integration using a BMS FSB to run the pump & solenoid. Once installed WMI is enabled when map8 is selected and the JB4 progressively controls WMI and boost targets as a function of WMI flow. The only safe way to run WMI.
3) Adjusted map7 to match map5 but hold boost stronger to redline for heavily modified cars.
4) Added logic for IAT remapping which provides direct ignition timing control. Requires you to add a wire within the JB4 harness itself. Will post more on this as we further evaluate it.
T5) Added fuel pressure logging under FP_H.


JB4 User Adjustment Settings as of v7 firmware:

Boost by gear: Enter amount of boost reduction in 1st, 2nd, or 3rd gear. Very useful for improving traction on RWD vehicles. We generally run 5psi in 1st, 1psi in 2nd, on our GT on stock tires to avoid wheel spin during launch mode. This reduces boost in 1st gear by 5psi, and reduces boost in 2nd gear by 1psi. You can reduce boost below factory levels as needed.

Fuel Bias: Used to fine tune fuel control. As of v7 firmware these settings are not required and only enabled if FutureUseD bit 1 is enabled. Values of 80 across the entire power band will match the internal default mapping, going lower target a richer air/fuel ratio while higher will target a leaner air/fuel ratio.

Map6 Boost: Allows you to enter a customized boost profile. You'll enter only peak boost over stock here, so 6.0 means add a maximum of 6psi over stock, at that RPM point. The JB4 will blend this request with pedal input, engine temperatures, etc, to provide a smooth mapping.

FutureUseD BIT settings as of v7 firmware:

bit0 - Turn on to disable JB4 fuel control or if optional fuel wires are not installed.
bit1 - Turn on to enable manual fuel control adjustment by RPM. Default values of 80 across will match internal mapping. Generally not suggested unless advised by a tuner.
bit2 - Turn on to disable JB4 hot/cold water & oil temperature protection
bit3 - Turn on enable IAT/timing spoofing, requires wire added to JB4 harness and 6cyl setting for spoofing level
bit4 - Unassigned
bit5 - Unassigned
bit6 - Turn on if vehicle has an aftermarket flash map loaded to the ECU
bit7 - Turn on to run more linear (sluggish) gas pedal to boost mapping

Spark Plugs:

Only map1 has a chance of working well with the factory plug gap. We suggest closing the gap on the stock plugs to 0.024"-0.026", or replacing the stock plugs with Denso 5346 plugs and gapping them to 0.022".

For your convenience you can order the required plugs, gapping tool, and magnetic socket from BMS on a $100 combo price: https://www.burgertuning.com/collect...iri-spark-plug



Dyno Testing: https://www.n54tech.com/forums/showp...&postcount=276

Dyno Testing w/ BMS intake: https://www.n54tech.com/forums/showp...&postcount=460

Dyno Testing w/ BMS WMI (water/meth) kit: https://www.n54tech.com/forums/showp...&postcount=953

Fuel Control Wires:

These add on wires attach to the JB4 harness and your vehicles sensors to give the JB4 the ability to directly change the air/fuel ratio. The factory tuning runs in the 10:1 range and leaning that out to 11:1 has proven to be worth significant power at higher engine speed. Note these are preinstalled on the JB4 harness now so only need to be attached to the o2 sensor signal wire to enable.

No setting changes are needed to enable the fuel control wires.

Forward video to 4min for systems already equipped with fuel wires to see how to attach them. For 3.3L they attach to the o2 sensor signal RED wire. For 2L applications only the longer wire is used and it goes to the primary o2 sensor signal WHITE wire.





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This is good news, but the one thing about Kia is that they will happily void your engine warranty if they ever see any non-factory engine mods. On the bright side, however, a piggyback unit can always be removed prior to any service visits.


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This is good news, but the one thing about Kia is that they will happily void your engine warranty if they ever see any non-factory engine mods. On the bright side, however, a piggyback unit can always be removed prior to any service visits.
Come on, they should know better than that. Magnuson-Moss says they aren't voiding anything.


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Definitely interested in hearing what's going on with this tune. I've had a JB+ and JB4 for my 335i and loved them. What might it be called?


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This is good news, but the one thing about Kia is that they will happily void your engine warranty if they ever see any non-factory engine mods. On the bright side, however, a piggyback unit can always be removed prior to any service visits.
He happens to work for a Kia dealer and told me as long as you remove the parts before going in generally it's not a problem. He said they are scanning the cars checking for flash tuning though now. Per usual if you can't afford to fix it, don't risk modifying it, but we expect our tuning to be very reliable. The motor appears overbuilt for the factory power levels.


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Definitely interested in hearing what's going on with this tune. I've had a JB+ and JB4 for my 335i and loved them. What might it be called?
It will be a JB4


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So far, so good on testing. We need some more test cars. Email if you have a Stinger and are looking for a great deal on a tune.


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So far, so good on testing. We need some more test cars. Email if you have a Stinger and are looking for a great deal on a tune.
Terry, I have a few people interested. How do I email you?


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Around 10 BETA systems are on the way out. I'll post an install guide and more detailed directions in the first post shortly. For now direct any inquires, help requests, logs, etc, to this thread so we have them all in one place.


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Are there any plans for jb4 for the 2.0T? Happy to be a tester if needed
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Absolutely... What year/model do you have?


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I have a 2018 Kia Stinger 2.0T.

It seems a lot of the tuning options are for the 3.3TT, but I’m sure there still a lot of interest with the 2.0T platform.
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Thanks for the opportunity Terry, Robert (2018 GT)
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I have a 2018 Kia Stinger 2.0T.

It seems a lot of the tuning options are for the 3.3TT, but Iím sure there still a lot of interest with the 2.0T platform.
I want to get the BETA system in the hands of a couple 2.0T cars to collect some data. I expect we'll be able to make the tuning fully compatible.


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Terry - do you need any Beta Testers for the Canadian market? I have the 3.3TT.

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We've got an initial 10 3.3L cars lined up already and will update the thread with progress as we go.


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I want to get the BETA system in the hands of a couple 2.0T cars to collect some data. I expect we'll be able to make the tuning fully compatible.
That would be great! Do they have to be local to Simi Valley or would any location work? How many testers were you thinking? I'd add my name to the list and happy to put the word out to others.

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First step would be to track down someone willing to drive by our office here. Put the word out and lets see if we can track a car down.


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Awesome! I'll email you once I get a taker!
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Talking So far so good - 03-23-2018, 05:30 AM

Installed my tester last night and only got to drive it for about 10 minutes because it was so late, but I can say first impressions are VERY positive. Car feels more powerful any gear any revs. Used launch control and it noticeably removed the slight delay it had before. I can also feel my car squatting more than it did before.
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Was able to install the JB4 this evening and make a couple pulls with data. It looks like the boost is low, but I'm not sure Im reading the data right.
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Well I've got some not so encouraging news. I took the car out for a few pulls, and on pull three we most definitely has issues.

I ran the car in mode 0 (disabled) and twice in mode two (+4psi). The first time things went without a hitch. Drove a couple of miles and went to pull again, and about half way through a WOT pull I got a solid check engine light that went off after finishing the pull (got up to 80Mph and let off). Slowed down to make the turn onto another road, and when I gave the car a little throttle to start speeding up I started getting misfires and the check engine light was back on. Drove the remaining mile to my house in that condition, and when I placed it in park, she was idling very rough, definite misfire.

Fired up the laptop and set the tune back down to mode 0 (disabled) and gave the car a few minutes, then fired it back up. Car ran as normal. Gave it a few hard accelerations in park up to 5krpm, and everything still ran fine as can be, with no check engine light.

I've got the entire sessions (all three pulls) recorded on my snapon diagnostics setup (should be able to be watch on the free ShopStream Connect software, and pictures of the maximum pre-chip MAP sensor voltage for each of the pulls as well.

I've enclosed a zip that has the session file, the software to view it, and a picture of the max map sensor voltage reading named to match the mark where the max boost occurred on the SnapOn Playback.

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