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Cool MMP Hotside Chargepipes new product annoucement - 11-10-2015, 03:43 PM

MMP is announcing new hotside chargepipes for the N54. These ***** have a flow through area more than 2x bigger than the stock ***** on the N54 connecting the turbos to the intercooler.

The kit comes complete in the box with all T-bolt clamps, custom silicone adapters, aluminum *****, and machined expansion nozzles with vband interface and O-ring to be a direct bolt on replacement to your restrictive OEM hotside *****. No cutting up of your stock *****, bead rolling, or bead welding required.

Cost is $269, just waiting on some inventory to arrive before I mark them as in stock on my website.

You can view the product page on my website here
http://mmp-e.com/products/bmw-n54-up...ercooler-*****

These upgraded ***** work with stock turbos or any upgraded hybrid turbochargers in stock housings

Install is as easy as removing your Downp*pes, removing your restrictive OEM hotside chargepipes, installing new high flow MMP hotside chargepipes, and let her rip! Does not require dropping the sub frame or anything more difficult then the basic steps above. The kit will include detailed install instructions with it.

Bench flow testing results, THEY FLOW 10X better THAN STOCK!!



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Default 11-10-2015, 03:50 PM

Any chance these will work with your Upgraded turbos when they are ready by just removing the nozzels ?
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Default 11-10-2015, 04:05 PM

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Any chance these will work with your Upgraded turbos when they are ready by just removing the nozzels ?
Funny you mention that, they are the exact same ones from my MMP turbos, all I did was machine the adapter nozzles. I made them for the MMP turbos but a bunch of people have requested to have them for sotck turbos so I made the adapter

So the short answer is yes, these ***** will work with the MMP turbos by just removing the nozzle and also my inlets I sell for the stock turbos will work for the MMP turbos just by changing the adapter elbows which I will include free with the turbos if you let me know you already have MMP inlets


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Default 11-10-2015, 04:10 PM

Congratulations dude. Is this product compatible with pure turbos and TFT inlets ? Thanks in advance.


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Default 11-10-2015, 04:16 PM

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Congratulations dude. Is this product compatible with pure turbos and TFT inlets ? Thanks in advance.
Yes


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Default 11-10-2015, 04:25 PM

Nice, this is interesting.
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Default 11-10-2015, 04:38 PM

Are hotside chargepipes and the traditional chargepipes two different entities?

Or same stuff different lingo.

LHD only?
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Default 11-10-2015, 04:44 PM

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Are hotside chargepipes and the traditional chargepipes two different entities?

Or same stuff different lingo.

LHD only?
It's the pipe that comes off the turbos and goes down to the intercooler initially.
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Default 11-10-2015, 04:47 PM

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It's the pipe that comes off the turbos and goes down to the intercooler initially.
Thank you. The website also explained it. Now, I know.
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Default 11-10-2015, 04:49 PM

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Are hotside chargepipes and the traditional chargepipes two different entities?

Or same stuff different lingo.

LHD only?
What you refer as traditional chargepipe but be the ''cold side'' charge pipe that is after the intercooler.

The ''hot side'' charge pipe is the one before the intercooler, it connect between both turbos and the intercooler inlet.

@MMP I suppose all the metal ***** are bedded ??
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Looking good man!
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Default 11-10-2015, 05:57 PM

Does it come with different couplers based on intercooler inlet diameter? (2.5" vs 3")
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Default 11-10-2015, 06:19 PM

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Does it come with different couplers based on intercooler inlet diameter? (2.5" vs 3")
it comes with 3" (MMP side) to 2.5" (intercooler side) coupler.


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Default 11-10-2015, 06:26 PM

Very nice! Now I just need some money.


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Default 11-10-2015, 06:58 PM

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it comes with 3" (MMP side) to 2.5" (intercooler side) coupler.
Got it. So all I need to connect to a 3in fmic is a standard 3 in coupler, correct?


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Default 11-10-2015, 07:10 PM

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Got it. So all I need to connect to a 3in fmic is a standard 3 in coupler, correct?
yes sir


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Default 11-10-2015, 07:48 PM

discounts for your first customers?

Still rocking MMP inlets for like 20k miles haha


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Default 11-10-2015, 08:04 PM

Nice work they look good. Will order a set of these over the winter!
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Default 11-10-2015, 08:19 PM

Were the nozzles on your ***** when you did the flow tests?

Just curious because you posted that same chart 6 months ago when you hadn't created the nozzles yet.

Regardless, they look nice and have a reasonable price tag.


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Default 11-10-2015, 08:28 PM

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Were the nozzles on your ***** when you did the flow tests?

Just curious because you posted that same chart 6 months ago when you hadn't created the nozzles yet.

Regardless, they look nice and have a reasonable price tag.
The flow tests were done without the adapter nozzles 6 months ago like you said. However they are just adapters to the stock turbo housings and only 1 in long and are the best possible way to transition flow from the turbo compressor outlet to the larger diameter intake *****. The flow loss from the expansion nozzles will be negligible because of their transition design and the length. If it was an abrupt transition from 1" ID in the compressor to 2" ID in the nozzle, it would create a pressure wave that would loose quite a bit of efficiency and flow, with the smooth transition nozzle, no pressure wave is created.


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Default 11-10-2015, 09:39 PM

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The flow tests were done without the adapter nozzles 6 months ago like you said. However they are just adapters to the stock turbo housings and only 1 in long and are the best possible way to transition flow from the turbo compressor outlet to the larger diameter intake *****. The flow loss from the expansion nozzles will be negligible because of their transition design and the length. If it was an abrupt transition from 1" ID in the compressor to 2" ID in the nozzle, it would create a pressure wave that would loose quite a bit of efficiency and flow, with the smooth transition nozzle, no pressure wave is created.
The ID of the nozzles will create a bottleneck in the system. Transition smoothness aside, you can only cram only so much mass flow rate through a cross sectional area. Since the ID of the nozzle seems to be pretty similar to the stock *****, I am curious what the flow rate difference actually is between yours and stock in their final assembled form.

Basically, your flow tests are not "apple to apple", so they aren't very convincing.


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Default 11-10-2015, 09:46 PM

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The ID of the nozzles will create a bottleneck in the system. Transition smoothness aside, you can only cram only so much mass flow rate through a cross sectional area. Since the ID of the nozzle seems to be pretty similar to the stock *****, I am curious what the flow rate difference actually is between yours and stock in their final assembled form.

Basically, your flow tests are not "apple to apple", so they aren't very convincing.
Ok I will get the flow test with redone with the nozzles in a few weeks to prove my point.

but look at it this way, are you saying that if I connect a 2" pipe to the outlet of the turbo I will have less pressure loss than with a smooth transition? Or are you saying that due to the ID of the compressor housing at the connection point being 1" it doesn't matter if you connect a larger pipe downstream?


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Default 11-10-2015, 10:02 PM

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Ok I will get the flow test with redone with the nozzles in a few weeks to prove my point.

but look at it this way, are you saying that if I connect a 2" pipe to the outlet of the turbo I will have less pressure loss than with a smooth transition? Or are you saying that due to the ID of the compressor housing at the connection point being 1" it doesn't matter if you connect a larger pipe downstream?
What I'm getting at is that you are saying in big red bold letters that your pipe flows 10x better than stock. But you tested your pipe without the restrictive nozzles, whereas the stock ***** do have this restriction. It has nothing to do with the design of the nozzles or the transition. Also, this is aside from the fact that the compressor outlets themselves are a significant restriction.

I think it would be cool to see the new test results, thanks!


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Default 11-10-2015, 10:07 PM

Ok will get them done


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