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Default 05-09-2020, 09:06 PM

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Hi their just joined today wanted to get some insight and info. To start I have a 2017 q50 3.0t premium rwd with Megan Ldp, rev9 muffler delete, ams intakes 19x9.5s all around with potenza re980as tires, Hotchkis sway bars i donít really understand tuning that well, so followed boostinmotionís advice and stuck with 6psi max boost on 91 octane. Havenít blown anything, no breaks or weird sounds. Took a chance and made an 8psi custom map. I know not a good idea but wanted to try higher power once or twice.🤷🏼😁 I will post logs and the map 6 that I ran. I just need help figuring out if Iím due for a broken engine if I canít figure this stuff out. Most of if not all the runs Iíve made have been with a 3/4 tank with 400-500lbs of cargo.
What I have below is map6 with 8psi boost. Can I do anything to the Bottom portion of map 6 fuel bias or duty, wastegate PID? Or do I need some kind of mods?
Map6 that I ran
1500-3
2000-3
2500-4
3000-5
3500-6
4000-7
4500-8
5000-8
5500-7
6000-6
6500-4
7000-2

Ma6 that I normally run
1500-1.6
2000-3.0
2500-3.8
3000-4.6
3500-5.2
4000-5.9
4500-6.3
5000-6.5
5500-6.3
6000-6.1
6500-6.0
7000-4.0
The +8 map may be pushing it with 91 octane, but you need longer pulls/logs at wide open throttle. Get to an open highway and do some nice long pulls with your foot to the floor and then report back With the logs.

Also, you will need the newly released BMS EWG wires to take advantage of the other settings you reference. I would also recommend the BMS Fuel wires to get you to a more optimal AFR as well.

It is a lot of reading, but start on page 1 of this thread and by page 214, it will make much more sense.
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Default 05-09-2020, 09:17 PM

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The +8 map may be pushing it with 91 octane, but you need longer pulls/logs at wide open throttle. Get to an open highway and do some nice long pulls with your foot to the floor and then report back With the logs.

Also, you will need the newly released BMS EWG wires to take advantage of the other settings you reference. I would also recommend the BMS Fuel wires to get you to a more optimal AFR as well.

It is a lot of reading, but start on page 1 of this thread and by page 214, it will make much more sense.
Thanks when I get a chance Iíll pull some logs, might be a tad difficult tho I donít want to go to fast.!(more then 90mph)🙃
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Default 05-09-2020, 09:35 PM

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Thanks when I get a chance Iíll pull some logs, might be a tad difficult tho I donít want to go to fast.!(more then 90mph)🙃
Understandable. Definitely stay safe. Just start from a slower speed. Start logging when entering an on-ramp, coming out of a rest area onto the highway, or from a stop on the side of the road.
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Default 05-10-2020, 09:10 AM

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Not likely to hear any ping as the ECU pulls timing too quickly. But it's easy to test by upping octane. As a general rule if it makes a sound on lower grade fuel but not on higher grade fuel all else being equal I'd turn down the boost as bit.
Thanks Terry, I appreciate that direct reply back to me . I'm finding out that our fuel in Canada is crap compared to US fuel! Even our Octane 91 is not as good as you guys, I've read our Octane 94 is like your Octane 91. Our premium fuel has no-ethanol in our province of B.C. So I'm stuck having to run lower boost numbers on mine! Although I do have access to E85, I'm not sure how reliable it is to use an E85 mix long-term, as I seen some owners compalined that they had to replace their injectors because of it? Dunno if that is myth or truths.
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Default 05-10-2020, 10:00 AM

So did a few runs below figured out how to shift properly.😂 I think I annoyed a lot of people however I did see at one point that I hit 19.7psi at an upshift😬. Altlthough I did hit a 4.69 0-60 according to dragy!😅

The first 3 logs labeled map 8 are running that 8psi max boost with a better taper at top rpm, the other 2 Labeled map 6, is my other map with a 6.5 max boost.
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File Type: csv 20200507_205719_runs(1) map 8.csv (17.6 KB, 58 views)
File Type: csv 20200510_065735_runs(1) map 8.csv (48.1 KB, 54 views)
File Type: csv 20200510_070335_runs(1) map 8.csv (77.4 KB, 53 views)
File Type: csv 20200510_070815_runs(1) map 6.csv (114.2 KB, 59 views)
File Type: csv 20200510_071305_runs(1) map 6.csv (128.3 KB, 59 views)
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Default 05-10-2020, 10:22 AM

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So did a few runs below figured out how to shift properly.😂 I think I annoyed a lot of people however I did see at one point that I hit 19.7psi at an upshift😬. Altlthough I did hit a 4.69 0-60 according to dragy!😅

The first 3 logs labeled map 8 are running that 8psi max boost with a better taper at top rpm, the other 2 Labeled map 6, is my other map with a 6.5 max boost.
Iíll let others chime in, but I donít see much in the way of sustained, full throttle pulls/logs in any of these files to evaluate.
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Default 05-10-2020, 10:30 AM

I might be doing this wrong then, 🤔 I have a feeling I understand what you mean by wot pulls. But at the same time I donít, do I just stop hold and then slam the throttle and go through the entire rpm band? Do I do a wot pull to redline for the first 4 gears? I think I just might be too nervous of catching lights in my mirror😅.
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Default 05-10-2020, 12:57 PM

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So did a few runs below figured out how to shift properly.�� I think I annoyed a lot of people however I did see at one point that I hit 19.7psi at an upshift��. Altlthough I did hit a 4.69 0-60 according to dragy!��

The first 3 logs labeled map 8 are running that 8psi max boost with a better taper at top rpm, the other 2 Labeled map 6, is my other map with a 6.5 max boost.
Logs look normal to me, although I don't remember what your orignal question was.

Something might be blocking gas pedal from going 100% down? It's around 90-95% here.
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Default 05-10-2020, 02:49 PM

Hi terry, my original question was if running 8psi around 4000 5500 is alright for the car, the only mods I have are bolt ons, Megan ********, muffler delete, ams intakes, sway bars. Any way judging by the graphs am I pushing the car to much at 91 octane?
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Default 05-10-2020, 03:17 PM

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Hi terry, my original question was if running 8psi around 4000 5500 is alright for the car, the only mods I have are bolt ons, Megan ********, muffler delete, ams intakes, sway bars. Any way judging by the graphs am I pushing the car to much at 91 octane?
Got it... The logs I saw all look OK so if it's running smoothly behind the wheel go for it.


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Default 05-12-2020, 10:54 PM

Hi terry can you please review this log

91octane on SS
Axle back
Map 2
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Default 05-13-2020, 06:16 PM

Hey Terry. Hoping to get your opinion on this log. Map 3 with fuel wires. 92 Octane. Q50 Luxe with a muffler delete.
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Default 05-13-2020, 09:54 PM

I like how people say muffler delete like it's a performance mod.. you just made your car from quiet tockoisy, that is all lol


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Default 05-13-2020, 10:07 PM

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I like how people say muffler delete like it's a performance mod.. you just made your car from quiet tockoisy, that is all lol
I'm well aware. But figured I'd list out all the mods. In case it made even the slightest difference.
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Default 05-14-2020, 08:14 AM

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I'm well aware. But figured I'd list out all the mods. In case it made even the slightest difference.
I applaud you for not blasting me for my typo of tockoisy, would have been an easy kill for you lol


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423 whp, 450 tq at 16.8psi with E30/JB4/FW/Intakes
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Default 05-14-2020, 09:33 AM

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Hi terry can you please review this log

91octane on SS
Axle back
Map 2
Looks fine to me.
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Default 05-14-2020, 09:34 AM

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Hey Terry. Hoping to get your opinion on this log. Map 3 with fuel wires. 92 Octane. Q50 Luxe with a muffler delete.
I don't see any issues here.
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I don't see any issues here.
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Default 05-14-2020, 11:05 PM

Decided to try map4. Logs attached. Terry would you mind checking these out too? I noticed the timing dropped a little more before starting to climb but didn't see any constant dips.
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I don't know why I look at the JB4 posts on Facebook forums. They all give me anxiety... so many Map 6's at +9, boost safety disabled, running e30 and they say 'Clean logs all day' but never even heard of n54tech... I hope they have backup cars
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Decided to try map4. Logs attached. Terry would you mind checking these out too? I noticed the timing dropped a little more before starting to climb but didn't see any constant dips.
Seems OK to me
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Default Lol - 05-15-2020, 10:36 AM

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Are you trying to cook your turbos at this point? It's been stated more than a few times that an RS should not go past +5 at most after you posted

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So the fact that you are still above 5 must mean you are trying to get outta that car, or cook the turbos to justify an upgrade?
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Default Unable to update Q50 firmware to version 8 - 05-15-2020, 12:48 PM

Hello,

Iíve just tried to update the firmware to version 8 on my Q50 and am having trouble to download and update.

The app has now changed recently for firmware updates via the app, but I canít get the app to show the current version 8 firmware.

I also tried using the link provided via the forum for firmware update but no progress there either.

Please can someone provide instructions on how to update the JB4 firmware for my Q50.

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Hello,

Iíve just tried to update the firmware to version 8 on my Q50 and am having trouble to download and update.

The app has now changed recently for firmware updates via the app, but I canít get the app to show the current version 8 firmware.

I also tried using the link provided via the forum for firmware update but no progress there either.

Please can someone provide instructions on how to update the JB4 firmware for my Q50.

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You need the latest app to get the firmware, what app version are you on?


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