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07-25-2018, 03:40 PM
can you just get an upgraded Lpfp and e85 mix instead of port injection? not a fan of PI
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07-25-2018, 03:56 PM
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can you just get an upgraded Lpfp and e85 mix instead of port injection? not a fan of PI
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why are you saying you are not a fan of pi ,, pi is the most beneficial things you can have for your hp fuel system. having just an upgraded lpfp its not enough if you want to go big. make sure you get someone that knows n wire the p.i properly.. i have heard lot of cases where people are having issues and this is bcause the installer dosnt know how to install it properly n wire it to the dme(jb4)..
fuel it! does offer the best products as far as p.i etc..
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07-25-2018, 06:38 PM
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you dont redline on stock turbos , after 6krpm stock turbos dont make more pwr. i can achieve 540whp at 21psi w proper fuel pi, meth e85 ...
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This means you need to make 473wtq at 6000 rpm to make 540whp...unless you plan to make peak power even earlier.
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07-25-2018, 06:40 PM
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This means you need to make 473wtq at 6000 rpm to make 540whp...unless you plan to make peak power even earlier.
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I can make more than that at 6k rpm and yes
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07-26-2018, 02:41 AM
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what exactly do you recommend to achieve 500rwhp on stock turbos, planning on swapping mine for a brand new stock set
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Probably this cos it aint happening.
The most you'll get on stockers with proper fuel is 450whp.
Trust me. Did it on E50 and port meth injection about 2 years ago.
The stock turbos compressor wheels are just too small. I ran 23 psi on them for a long time.
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07-26-2018, 02:44 AM
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can you just get an upgraded Lpfp and e85 mix instead of port injection? not a fan of PI
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The stock lpfp is under gunned, hence the upgraded 450lph versions for stage 2 or stage 2 bucketless but you are feeding a crappy hpfp. You need port injection or meth injection to help it. But don't believe this 540whp story 
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07-26-2018, 04:58 AM
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I can make more than that at 6k rpm and yes
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Then you will make more than 540WHP
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07-26-2018, 08:38 AM
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Probably this cos it aint happening.
The most you'll get on stockers with proper fuel is 450whp.
Trust me. Did it on E50 and port meth injection about 2 years ago.
The stock turbos compressor wheels are just too small. I ran 23 psi on them for a long time.
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maybe you wernt able to bcause of your set up. and i have done it on full e85 in the past .. maybe you need to get more fuel lets say 3 450 Walbros on your lpfs and on your hp side have pi and double barrell hpfp anything is possible as long as you know what you are doing
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07-26-2018, 08:39 AM
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The stock lpfp is under gunned, hence the upgraded 450lph versions for stage 2 or stage 2 bucketless but you are feeding a crappy hpfp. You need port injection or meth injection to help it. But don't believe this 540whp story 
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you can have 2 hpfp if you know what you are doing also port injection to conpenssate under wot
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07-26-2018, 08:44 AM
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This means you need to make 473wtq at 6000 rpm to make 540whp...unless you plan to make peak power even earlier.
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07-26-2018, 08:45 AM
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The stock lpfp is under gunned, hence the upgraded 450lph versions for stage 2 or stage 2 bucketless but you are feeding a crappy hpfp. You need port injection or meth injection to help it. But don't believe this 540whp story 
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07-26-2018, 08:46 AM
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Probably this cos it aint happening.
The most you'll get on stockers with proper fuel is 450whp.
Trust me. Did it on E50 and port meth injection about 2 years ago.
The stock turbos compressor wheels are just too small. I ran 23 psi on them for a long time.
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07-26-2018, 05:10 PM
Well someone knows what's going on out there. This is good hard info about the capacity of stock turbos. This give me hope that stage ones can run at 500whp at a safe level with proper fueling. 
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07-27-2018, 06:12 AM
6124rpm, 19.4psi with only 54 wgdc. Lulz
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07-27-2018, 08:34 AM
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6124rpm, 19.4psi with only 54 wgdc. Lulz
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The wgdc doesn't mean much. You can screw the wastegate arms in tight to lower the vacuum needed to close them.
The stock turbos are something like 10T TD03s. I think people are wasting their time airming for 500WHP with them. I did around 477WHP in 2016. Like E50 fuel with meth injection. You only need to see the compressor chart to realise it's an uphill battle.
Yes it's just a jb4 log in virtual dyno

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07-27-2018, 09:23 AM
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the car is a 2009 bmw 335i 6 speed manual
mods : Jb4,Dci's, Bms BEF, Running e40, New 335is clutch.
3 pulls were made @102f outside temp... after 1 hr run car on dyno again and the outcome was 420hp, 520tq. @ 19.5 psi. i will post new dyno data sheet after couple mods coming up.. it should be around 540hp @22psi. 5xxtq.
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You probably shouldn’t of posted that until you actually made it happen. Take it to the drag strip and post those numbers!!
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07-27-2018, 09:40 AM
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You probably shouldn’t of posted that until you actually made it happen. Take it to the drag strip and post those numbers!!
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anyone that knows the potential of this car know what they can do i dont have to prove anyone anything you can watch this video n convince your self . Thats not a car i have worked on myself but anyone that knnows what they are doing can achive the same outcome at the track:
Video here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61u2KIGabZI
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07-27-2018, 10:06 AM
HAHAHA I know you are just trolling us now 
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07-27-2018, 11:08 AM
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HAHAHA I know you are just trolling us now 
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07-27-2018, 02:59 PM
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anyone that knows the potential of this car know what they can do i dont have to prove anyone anything you can watch this video n convince your self . Thats not a car i have worked on myself but anyone that knnows what they are doing can achive the same outcome at the track:
Video here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61u2KIGabZI
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Full retard
Please people. Don't let some idiot sell you a lie and blow up your engine.
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07-27-2018, 04:48 PM
I knew there was a reason I check in over here every once and a while. You just can't make this stuff up...well most of the time you can't. 
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07-27-2018, 05:07 PM
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Full retard
Please people. Don't let some idiot sell you a lie and blow up your engine.
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none is selling anything. we are posting info thats all if you want to buy anything you can click here:
http://www.burgertuning.com/
and if you need to upgrade your fuel system so you wont blow up your engine you can buy here:
http://www.fuel-it.com/
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07-27-2018, 05:11 PM
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Full retard
Please people. Don't let some idiot sell you a lie and blow up your engine.
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btw your car needs improevement
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if you need more fuel system upgrade you can upgrade here:
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07-29-2018, 04:12 AM
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anyone that knows the potential of this car know what they can do i dont have to prove anyone anything you can watch this video n convince your self . Thats not a car i have worked on myself but anyone that knnows what they are doing can achive the same outcome at the track:
Video here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61u2KIGabZI
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WTF does that video have to do with “YOUR” car making 540whp on stock turbos??? Cmon man stop the nonsense now!!
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08-01-2018, 07:09 AM
Lol come on guy. This has to be a joke- very few people have hit 500whp and that was every mod in the world with way to much boost for stokers-glory run.
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