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05-22-2018, 02:35 PM
I just ordered this from N54tuning. I noticed the kit doesn't include a J-pipe. Do I just use the stock one?
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05-22-2018, 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by artsoasis
I just ordered this from N54tuning. I noticed the kit doesn't include a J-pipe. Do I just use the stock one?
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Yes, the silicone couplers included are for stock lower J pipe.
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05-28-2018, 09:03 AM
By popular demand added a fin pack photo to the first post. Seems to be a lot of discussion on fin pack going around... Remember it's not just about shoving as many fins as you can in. Because if they don't square off on the plate you won't get good heat transfer and wind up being counter productive.
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05-28-2018, 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Terry @ BMS
By popular demand added a fin pack photo to the first post. Seems to be a lot of discussion on fin pack going around... Remember it's not just about shoving as many fins as you can in. Because if they don't square off on the plate you won't get good heat transfer and wind up being counter productive.
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Could you maybe ask phoenix racing to make an F series race cores? 
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05-28-2018, 10:03 AM
This thing is awesome. I've been running it for about 6,000 miles now and it's refreshing to see on most logs that my IATs seem to actually go down or stay the same as a pull progresses. This thing + E85, even during the hot summers, should make IATs a non-factor for most setups. Only downside was all the cutting, but that was well known coming into the installation.
Visit Chadillac2000's 2008 135i Road Warrior Daily Driver Single Turbo Build Thread HERE
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05-28-2018, 11:08 AM
Damn, Did you make it black your own?
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05-28-2018, 11:10 AM
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Damn, Did you make it black your own?
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Yes, a very light coat of black high temp paint after it arrived. BMS has admitted some have overspray, and mine was one of those, so that made the decision even easier to just make it a uniform black finish. In theory, I probably lost a minuscule amount of efficiency by painting it black, but I like the stealth look and doubt it makes a bit of difference at my power levels.
Visit Chadillac2000's 2008 135i Road Warrior Daily Driver Single Turbo Build Thread HERE
ACF PTE 6062 BB Top Mount ST Kit, Fuel-It! Stage 3 LPFP, Phoenix Racing Port Injection Manifold + RACE FMIC, JB4 + BMS ST E85 PI BEF
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05-28-2018, 11:15 AM
I like it, mine also got a few stranghe spots / overspray, but its not that bad when its under the car! But maybe if im bored i will paint it black because it looks sexy!
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05-28-2018, 11:38 AM
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I like it, mine also got a few stranghe spots / overspray, but its not that bad when its under the car! But maybe if im bored i will paint it black because it looks sexy!
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Agreed. I left my VRSF 7" silver and it was slightly visible through the front mesh, but I like this all-black look better. Plus, you can still see if it you look hard enough 
Visit Chadillac2000's 2008 135i Road Warrior Daily Driver Single Turbo Build Thread HERE
ACF PTE 6062 BB Top Mount ST Kit, Fuel-It! Stage 3 LPFP, Phoenix Racing Port Injection Manifold + RACE FMIC, JB4 + BMS ST E85 PI BEF
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05-28-2018, 01:57 PM
do the intercooler inlet and outlet necks match VRSF necks? I already have the VRSF 5" with turbo outlets for the vrsf intercooler...
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05-28-2018, 02:48 PM
Yes they are the same.
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05-29-2018, 09:07 AM
this intercooler is looking good, i need to upgrade from my current ad-e 650, this intercooler good for upper 700hp i'm seeing ?
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05-29-2018, 09:35 AM
Yes no problems up to 850whp so far in testing.
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05-29-2018, 10:02 AM
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Yes no problems up to 850whp so far in testing.
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05-29-2018, 04:31 PM
Log from Payam's 800whp 335i racing at Shift Sector running the Phoenix Race IC. 30psi boost and only temps only went up ~25F at 160+mph.
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05-30-2018, 10:04 AM
This thing is VERY impressive. I am on stock turbos and i barely see a few degrees IAT rise during a 2-3-some of 4 pull. Also i did not notice any turbo lag with this monster of an intercooler as many of you thought. Coming from the old 7" vrsf.
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06-09-2018, 04:07 PM
3” Lower J pipe anyone? Finished product will be powder coated wrinkle black.
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06-09-2018, 11:54 PM
Price? And when is it ready to order?
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06-10-2018, 07:53 AM
Are you including this with your race intercooler like others do?
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06-10-2018, 09:27 AM
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Are you including this with your race intercooler like others do?
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No. Our race intercooler is $499. Others are priced at $669 or higher. We will be offering both the 2.5" pipe and 3" pipe as inexpensive upgrades, though. And for those with "other" intercoolers it looks like our 3" cold pipe kit will be fully compatible!
Burger Motorsports
Home of the JB4 the worlds most popular turbocharged tuning system!
It is the sole responsibility of the purchaser and installer of any BMS part to employ the correct installation techniques required to ensure the proper operation of BMS parts, and BMS disclaims any and all liability for any part failure due to improper installation or use. It is the sole responsibility of the customer to verify that the use of their vehicle and items purchased comply with federal, state and local regulations. BMS claims no legal federal, state or local certification concerning pollution controlled motor vehicles or mandated emissions requirements. BMS products labeled for use only in competition racing vehicles may only be used on competition racing vehicles operated exclusively on a closed course in conjunction with a sanctioned racing event, in accordance with all federal and state laws, and may never be operated on public roads/highways. Please click here for more information on legal requirements related to use of BMS parts.
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06-10-2018, 09:28 AM
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Price? And when is it ready to order?
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Haven't set price yet but in the $59 range for the 3" pipe and required couplers for the intercooler and chargepipe. It's in production now so probably a couple weeks.
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It is the sole responsibility of the purchaser and installer of any BMS part to employ the correct installation techniques required to ensure the proper operation of BMS parts, and BMS disclaims any and all liability for any part failure due to improper installation or use. It is the sole responsibility of the customer to verify that the use of their vehicle and items purchased comply with federal, state and local regulations. BMS claims no legal federal, state or local certification concerning pollution controlled motor vehicles or mandated emissions requirements. BMS products labeled for use only in competition racing vehicles may only be used on competition racing vehicles operated exclusively on a closed course in conjunction with a sanctioned racing event, in accordance with all federal and state laws, and may never be operated on public roads/highways. Please click here for more information on legal requirements related to use of BMS parts.
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06-10-2018, 09:44 AM
Damn. Sign me up.
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06-12-2018, 01:12 AM
Yeah i can't wait to get some funds to buy this. Or a Wagner EVO2, i'm still not sure. The big Phoenix IC will outperform the Wagners right? What about the little Phoenix?
I don't want the crap that VRSF is selling lately, thats for sure.
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06-12-2018, 03:48 AM
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I don't want the crap that VRSF is selling lately, thats for sure.
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06-12-2018, 09:11 AM
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Yeah i can't wait to get some funds to buy this. Or a Wagner EVO2, i'm still not sure. The big Phoenix IC will outperform the Wagners right? What about the little Phoenix?
I don't want the crap that VRSF is selling lately, thats for sure.
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What are your end goals? I would just go for the bigger Phoenix, it won't hurt and will leave headroom for the future. I don't really see any intercooler competing with it for the quality and price.
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Home of the Worlds fastest N20s, N54s, N55s, S55s, N63s, and S63s!
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