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Default 06-03-2015, 04:41 AM

Sorry if posting that pic was stupid I just thought it was a good diagram.

http://www.plex-tuning.com/products/...nitor-v2-0-new

^Maybe this is useful though but I doubt would be any better than DME


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Ok I will hunt them down when I get a chance this week.



That is fine, just keep them together and at the top of threads, etc. Using the most up to date from the repo will always work with your latest bins as well
Any word on getting those other tables mapped? I have a stock turbo car running straight E85 and meth. The current table changes have made a good deal of progress, but I still see small timing pulls every now and then. I'd like to do some further experimentation with this.


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Default 06-08-2015, 07:48 PM

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Sorry if posting that pic was stupid I just thought it was a good diagram.

http://www.plex-tuning.com/products/...nitor-v2-0-new

^Maybe this is useful though but I doubt would be any better than DME
I was serious about it being a great find. Great visualization for how a knock sensor differentiates between each cylinder.

I was mostly poking fun at how Terry didn't think it was high tech enough. I guess he has faith in the DME!


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Default 06-08-2015, 08:49 PM

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I was serious about it being a great find. Great visualization for how a knock sensor differentiates between each cylinder.

I was mostly poking fun at how Terry didn't think it was high tech enough. I guess he has faith in the DME!
Heh J&S is pretty old school. Back when it came out it was cutting edge. But much less advanced than our DME's integrated system.


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I always thought to myself that if I ever ended up owning an S38 car I'd have a Vampire system for it installed.
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Loaded up a new MHD E85 IJEOS file last night from Terry and my timing drops are finally gone. I've had these issues for over a year now and I feel like my car has been running at 85% of its power potential due to these timing drops but not anymore. Thanks for the hard work guys!

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Can you post up any before and after logs?

On my car with 60% meth, 40% water and 15% E (UK based, no E85 available) I seem to get great timing on all but cylinder 2. Just wondering if it's false knock. NGK 0.56mm gapped Plugs are less than 100 miles old and coil pack is brand new.

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Default 06-24-2015, 04:47 AM

Hi guys,
do we just have 2 knock detectors? How do we get detection on all cylinders?

I was reading this article. I take it the N54 doesn't use the spark plugs as ion detectors for knock?

http://www.bimmerboost.com/showthrea...ually-happened

I have been on other threads about indexing plugs. I read this an thought, OMG, are my none OEM NGK plugs being used for knock detection???

Does this method then get used in the M3/M4 making tuning more challenging?

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Hi guys,
do we just have 2 knock detectors? How do we get detection on all cylinders?

I was reading this article. I take it the N54 doesn't use the spark plugs as ion detectors for knock?

http://www.bimmerboost.com/showthrea...ually-happened

I have been on other threads about indexing plugs. I read this an thought, OMG, are my none OEM NGK plugs being used for knock detection???

Does this method then get used in the M3/M4 making tuning more challenging?

Thanks
It is one knock sensor per bank, then a time measurement window is applied in the DME for the knock sensors to listen for noise from a particular cylinder. The time window is based on firing order, giving an easy way to detect per cylinder knock.
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Default 06-24-2015, 07:23 AM

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It is one knock sensor per bank, then a time measurement window is applied in the DME for the knock sensors to listen for noise from a particular cylinder. The time window is based on firing order, giving an easy way to detect per cylinder knock.
After seeing the earlier diagram I should have put 2 and 2 together. Thanks!


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Default 07-03-2015, 07:00 PM

Terry, have you been able to get the built motor's timing corrections to go away with these tables?

I'm thinking of going built bottom end, but not at the expense of inconsistent timing.

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No it's been out of commission for the last few weeks. We took it apart to make a new intake or mount our single filter and gave up. Just no space with the FFTEC bottom mount kit. But in the process had to pull the water pump, etc, and haven't had the time to put it back together. I'm looking forward to testing it soon though.


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Default 07-04-2015, 08:05 AM

Has anyone defined these tables for ILAOS_IS xdf?


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We have them in INA0S. Just switch to MHD to load it.


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Default 07-04-2015, 08:58 AM

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We have them in INA0S. Just switch to MHD to load it.
I haven't made that leap yet. Most the 335is people I know on flash only are still on Cobb. I've been trying to get a hold of a INA0S_IS bin file so I can play around with it in TunerPro.


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No it's been out of commission for the last few weeks. We took it apart to make a new intake or mount our single filter and gave up. Just no space with the FFTEC bottom mount kit. But in the process had to pull the water pump, etc, and haven't had the time to put it back together. I'm looking forward to testing it soon though.
If it's already at that point, might as well make it a VM kit LOL!


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I haven't made that leap yet. Most the 335is people I know on flash only are still on Cobb. I've been trying to get a hold of a INA0S_IS bin file so I can play around with it in TunerPro.
Oh if flash only who knows. We only do JB4 + back end maps around here. With MHD you don't have the torque limiter in place, which is good for the DCT trans. It's well worth the $80 entry fee IMHO.


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Oh if flash only who knows. We only do JB4 + back end maps around here. With MHD you don't have the torque limiter in place, which is good for the DCT trans. It's well worth the $80 entry fee IMHO.
No 18.5psi cap or torque limits on Cobb with ILA0S_IS. Been enjoying this before MHD even existed

I8A0S and IJE0S benefited the most from MHD. The only advantage I see on the 'is' rom is access to the knock table and I am not convinced I should be touching those just yet


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Default 07-05-2015, 05:02 PM

ILA0S_IS knock tables defined. Guess it is time to experiment.

Terry, how far have you increased these values? I see on the E85 flash you have them maxed at 3. Did you ever try higher than that? Have you pushed the other table values higher/lower than whats in your E85 flash?
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There are two other tables that act as master limits. So I'd just run the values in our back end flash map. The values we run max out the individual tables and in essence run at the master tables.

The thing is without MHD you'll be capped at stock torque ceiling. For anyone with a DCT I'd suggest spending the $80. It's well worth it.


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There are two other tables that act as master limits. So I'd just run the values in our back end flash map. The values we run max out the individual tables and in essence run at the master tables.

The thing is without MHD you'll be capped at stock torque ceiling. For anyone with a DCT I'd suggest spending the $80. It's well worth it.
Think it's worth me spending the time to define these master tables? Would there be a benefit in raising them?
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Think it's worth me spending the time to define these master tables? Would there be a benefit in raising them?
They're defined in Terry's XDF, so it shouldn't be a big deal for you to add them the the open source version.
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They're defined in Terry's XDF, so it shouldn't be a big deal for you to add them the the open source version.
No they're not. He's talking about two different tables here. You're thinking of Max vs Temps and Intensity 1 and 2. There are two more I didn't get around to finding yet.
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Think it's worth me spending the time to define these master tables? Would there be a benefit in raising them?
It can't hurt. At some point we'll go too far and start blowing stuff up. But, my gut feeling is we could probably push it a bit further on straight E85.


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