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01-04-2011, 09:28 PM
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Whats the difference between the ALPHA and BETA???
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With beta you are likely to make it around the block without calling a towtruck. 
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01-04-2011, 09:31 PM
hahahahaha ^
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01-04-2011, 10:09 PM
alphas are more dominant whereas betas are more submissive
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01-05-2011, 04:02 AM
is autotuning going to be enabled in beta? Has anyone been able to test and log this?
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01-05-2011, 11:07 AM
Autotuning and autopid are disabled, but we'll add them in a future firmware update. Doing some development on those now.
Burger Motorsports
Home of the JB4 the worlds most popular turbocharged tuning system!
It is the sole responsibility of the purchaser and installer of any BMS part to employ the correct installation techniques required to ensure the proper operation of BMS parts, and BMS disclaims any and all liability for any part failure due to improper installation or use. It is the sole responsibility of the customer to verify that the use of their vehicle and items purchased comply with federal, state and local regulations. BMS claims no legal federal, state or local certification concerning pollution controlled motor vehicles or mandated emissions requirements. BMS products labeled for use only in competition racing vehicles may only be used on competition racing vehicles operated exclusively on a closed course in conjunction with a sanctioned racing event, in accordance with all federal and state laws, and may never be operated on public roads/highways. Please click here for more information on legal requirements related to use of BMS parts.
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01-05-2011, 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Terry @ BMS
Autotuning and autopid are disabled, but we'll add them in a future firmware update. Doing some development on those now.
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great to hear!  |
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Can I haz boost?
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01-05-2011, 01:25 PM
so can we upgrade our JB3 to the JB4 beta? or do i have to wait for the full release before getting the credit? (i got my jb3 mid to late November 2010)
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01-05-2011, 02:39 PM
Can anyone provide a brief explanation of the Global Features and the affect they have once the values are changed. I'm particulary interested in:
Boost Gain, Auto shift damper and feed forward....thanks
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01-05-2011, 02:41 PM
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Can anyone provide a brief explanation of the Global Features and the affect they have once the values are changed. I'm particulary interested in:
Boost Gain, Auto shift damper and feed forward....thanks
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+1. Was about to ask that too. |
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01-05-2011, 03:29 PM
Just leave them at the default values, they are not meant for you to change them.
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01-05-2011, 04:34 PM
Just put in a order for mine, hope i aint far down the list.. Finally gettting some time to play for the next few months  |
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01-05-2011, 05:08 PM
So, I just got my 335xi and want to get the JB4 with cone filters and scan tool. I see I can purchase the beta version on the website now. Will the beta versions get a free upgrade to the full release once it is available?
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01-05-2011, 05:43 PM
Firmware updates are always free, and downloaded from this forum. Expect lots of firmware updates for the next few months as we add new features.
Burger Motorsports
Home of the JB4 the worlds most popular turbocharged tuning system!
It is the sole responsibility of the purchaser and installer of any BMS part to employ the correct installation techniques required to ensure the proper operation of BMS parts, and BMS disclaims any and all liability for any part failure due to improper installation or use. It is the sole responsibility of the customer to verify that the use of their vehicle and items purchased comply with federal, state and local regulations. BMS claims no legal federal, state or local certification concerning pollution controlled motor vehicles or mandated emissions requirements. BMS products labeled for use only in competition racing vehicles may only be used on competition racing vehicles operated exclusively on a closed course in conjunction with a sanctioned racing event, in accordance with all federal and state laws, and may never be operated on public roads/highways. Please click here for more information on legal requirements related to use of BMS parts.
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01-05-2011, 05:47 PM
soo when will the "regular" version be out thats ready to go and doesnt need anything?
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01-05-2011, 05:54 PM
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Firmware updates are always free, and downloaded from this forum. Expect lots of firmware updates for the next few months as we add new features. |
Sounds good, so how long will it take to receive once I order the JB4 beta? |
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01-05-2011, 05:55 PM
The JB4 PnPs are in stock, I think 10 left, give or take.
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01-05-2011, 05:59 PM
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The JB4 PnPs are in stock, I think 10 left, give or take.
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Thanks, I'm going to order one off your website right now! |
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01-05-2011, 06:00 PM
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With beta you are likely to make it around the block without calling a towtruck. |
Glad I have a truck to tow myself. I would have spent a fortune on the 500 times I had to tow myself back to my garage this week alone. And it's only Wednesday. 
--2009 BMW 135i--2016 Nissan Titan XD (Turbo Cummins ISV)--2016 VW Tiguan 2.0Tsi --1988 Beechcraft Bonanza--Suzuki GSX-R 1000--Honda CBR-600RR--
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01-05-2011, 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Terry @ BMS
Just leave them at the default values, they are not meant for you to change them.
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We promise not to screw with it.....if it's not too much to ask, can you briefly go over their functions. |
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01-05-2011, 06:26 PM
All are calibrations for the PID boost control system. PIDGain is the dynamic component, FF the fixed component (soon to be adaptive with autoPID), and shift reduction how much PWM is removed during automatic shifts.
To optimize FFMAX for example when logging if the FF parameter is routinely higher than the PWM parameter then FFMAX can be reduced, lowering the FF component of the PID, until it sits around 10% lower than PWM under general WOT conditions. It's not practical for users to self optimize this though which is why we're creating the autoPID system.
Burger Motorsports
Home of the JB4 the worlds most popular turbocharged tuning system!
It is the sole responsibility of the purchaser and installer of any BMS part to employ the correct installation techniques required to ensure the proper operation of BMS parts, and BMS disclaims any and all liability for any part failure due to improper installation or use. It is the sole responsibility of the customer to verify that the use of their vehicle and items purchased comply with federal, state and local regulations. BMS claims no legal federal, state or local certification concerning pollution controlled motor vehicles or mandated emissions requirements. BMS products labeled for use only in competition racing vehicles may only be used on competition racing vehicles operated exclusively on a closed course in conjunction with a sanctioned racing event, in accordance with all federal and state laws, and may never be operated on public roads/highways. Please click here for more information on legal requirements related to use of BMS parts.
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01-05-2011, 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Terry @ BMS
All are calibrations for the PID boost control system. PIDGain is the dynamic component, FF the fixed component (soon to be adaptive with autoPID), and shift reduction how much PWM is removed during automatic shifts.
To optimize FFMAX for example when logging if the FF parameter is routinely higher than the PWM parametric then FFMAX can be reduced, lowering the FF component of the PID, until it sits around 10% lower than PWM under general WOT conditions. It's not practical for users to self optimize this though which is why we're creating the autoPID system. |
What the F%*K are you talking about Terry? 
Whatever you said I agree cause JB4 ROCKS!!  |
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01-05-2011, 06:49 PM
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The JB4 PnPs are in stock, I think 10 left, give or take.
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Ordered mine Yesterday  |
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01-05-2011, 07:28 PM
upgrades in stock??
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01-05-2011, 07:43 PM
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upgrades in stock??
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I checked before buying, but there was no upgrade option, so I just paid it in full. I guess I will need to sell the JB3. Got my tracking# |
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01-05-2011, 09:18 PM
Upgrades are not in stock yet. If you already have a JB3 though it's a lot cheaper to upgrade, if waiting a few more days is worth saving some cash.
Burger Motorsports
Home of the JB4 the worlds most popular turbocharged tuning system!
It is the sole responsibility of the purchaser and installer of any BMS part to employ the correct installation techniques required to ensure the proper operation of BMS parts, and BMS disclaims any and all liability for any part failure due to improper installation or use. It is the sole responsibility of the customer to verify that the use of their vehicle and items purchased comply with federal, state and local regulations. BMS claims no legal federal, state or local certification concerning pollution controlled motor vehicles or mandated emissions requirements. BMS products labeled for use only in competition racing vehicles may only be used on competition racing vehicles operated exclusively on a closed course in conjunction with a sanctioned racing event, in accordance with all federal and state laws, and may never be operated on public roads/highways. Please click here for more information on legal requirements related to use of BMS parts.
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