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Default User adjustment Vs map type - 05-19-2018, 07:49 AM

Hi all,

I keep reading what appears to be conflicting comments about user adjustable settings and what applies to which map on the B58.

1. Which settings can be used to adjust maps 1,2,3,5, 6 additive.
2. Which settings can be used to adjust maps 6, 7 absolute.
3. EWG wire works only on map6 and 7 absolute right?
4. FF wire works on all maps, right?

Please advise and clarify. Thank you.

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Hi all,

I keep reading what appears to be conflicting comments about user adjustable settings and what applies to which map on the B58.

1. Which settings can be used to adjust maps 1,2,3,5, 6 additive.
2. Which settings can be used to adjust maps 6, 7 absolute.
3. EWG wire works only on map6 and 7 absolute right?
4. FF wire works on all maps, right?

Please advise and clarify. Thank you.

Alex
1- Maps 1,2,3,5 are additive non adjustable maps. Map 7 is methanol adjustable additive map.
2- Map 6 can be used either way depending on how boost in RPM15000 is set. Below 8psi makes it additive, above that absolute.
3- EWG wire is usually used for maps 6,7,8 intended for WMI, large turbo cars, or cars with throttle problems as result of exhaust modificaitons.
4- Yes, correct.


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Just what I needed. Thank you.

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Default 06-03-2018, 07:53 AM

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1- Maps 1,2,3,5,7 are additive non adjustable maps. Map 8 is methanol adjustable additive map.
2- Map 6 is an absolute map.
3- EWG wire is usually used for maps 6,7,8 intended for Methanol or large turbo cars
4- Yes, correct.
Map 8 in B58? Is that new???
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Map 8 in B58? Is that new???
Sorry, Map 7 is the Methanol map.

Let me redo this:
1- Maps 1,2,3,5 are additive non adjustable maps. Map 7 is methanol adjustable additive map.
2- Map 6 is an absolute map.
3- EWG wire is usually used for maps 6,7 intended for Methanol or large turbo cars
4- Yes, correct.


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Sorry, Map 7 is the Methanol map.

Let me redo this:
1- Maps 1,2,3,5 are additive non adjustable maps. Map 7 is methanol adjustable additive map.
2- Map 6 is an absolute map.
3- EWG wire is usually used for maps 6,7 intended for Methanol or large turbo cars
4- Yes, correct.
When you say "non-adjustable" is that for boost only? I set my map 1 to the default settings in the sticky. In it, there are settings for duty bias and various others. Do they still matter?
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Default 06-07-2018, 07:00 AM

1,2,3,5 are additive maps, And are pre set maps.
Only thing adjustable on those maps are FOL setting


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Regardless of map type, you do need to have the default settings in place for any of them to work. Learned that the hard way.


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Also, the FF wire is very good for all maps.


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Regardless of map type, you do need to have the default settings in place for any of them to work. Learned that the hard way.
What do you mean by that? I just installed the JB4 the other day along with the the bluetooth connect thing. Are the default settings not already in place?


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Default 06-07-2018, 09:28 AM

FF wires are needed to adjust FOL.
jB4 should have everything setup when you purchase with default settings.


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FF wires are needed to adjust FOL.
jB4 should have everything setup when you purchase with default settings.
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Default setting were not in place for me. Had to enter them manually.
Check your log to make sure the default settings are listed in the heading with the right values.


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This isn't making sense. First I'm told simply picking map 1 or 2 is enough. Then I'm told that I have to put in the settings shown in my post above. Then, the statement is made that those settings don't matter in those maps, except FOL. I have the base JB4, no wastegate or fuel control wires, and I'm on map 1. Do I need to input the settings or not? Do they have an effect or not?
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Check Absolute vs additive maps Link under B58. I know it is confusing.


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This isn't making sense. First I'm told simply picking map 1 or 2 is enough. Then I'm told that I have to put in the settings shown in my post above. Then, the statement is made that those settings don't matter in those maps, except FOL. I have the base JB4, no wastegate or fuel control wires, and I'm on map 1. Do I need to input the settings or not? Do they have an effect or not?
Leave the default settings shown in your post
Use map1,2,3 or 5 depending on how the car runs (datalog to see)
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Check Absolute vs additive maps Link under B58. I know it is confusing.
I have, many times. It is a bit confusing so I'm asking for verification. I do understand the maps, but want to have a good base point for starting custom tuning.
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Leave the default settings shown in your post
Use map1,2,3 or 5 depending on how the car runs (datalog to see)
And you’ll be ok.
Thank you for the input, but maps 1 and 2 allow no additional tuning according to posts above. I'm in pump gas 91 and can't support map 3 or 5. Thus, I was going to choose map 6 for a starting point. It's an additive or absolute map depending on settings under boost. I just need a solid starting point confirmed.

It appears that copying the default settings to map 6 and setting boost to 3 across the rpm range, would essentially copy map 1. That's what I want to confirm.
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Running EWg wires and map 6 absolute values is best for custom tune.


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I still get confused though. Just read a thread on B58 where Terry seemed to say FUA and Gain adjustment could be made. This gets back to what I have asked about earlier, ..............

Which user adjustments can be made for a B58 engine, on additive maps??? Is a listing available?

Terry or anyone, please clarify...

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I still get confused though. Just read a thread on B58 where Terry seemed to say FUA and Gain adjustment could be made. This gets back to what I have asked about earlier, ..............

Which user adjustments can be made for a B58 engine, on additive maps??? Is a listing available?

Terry or anyone, please clarify...

Thank you all
What are you trying to adjust? FUA is only when EWG wires are installed.


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OK. Now will this adjustment work on Maps 1,2,3,5, or only 6 and 7?

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