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Default My Current B58 MPPSK JB4 Settings - 06-16-2017, 08:44 PM

*** UPDATED AS OF "BMW_B48_B58_OBDII_9" FIRMWARE ***

Since many people have asked me and some have had some luck using my settings as a baseline, I am posting them for people to take a look at. Keep in mind that my setup is below and these settings will likely not work for your vehicle if your setup is different.

Current Setup:
  • B58 Engine
  • MPPSK
  • JB4
  • EWG Wires
  • FF Wires
  • ~E20-E25/91 Octane Fuel

Settings are as follows:
  • Map 6 - 17.0 across the board
  • Fuel Bias - default values
  • Duty Bias - default values
  • FOL - 75
  • FUA - 10
  • FUD - 0

These settings resulted in smoother power delivery for me, but may not for you. I would try the default settings, log, then make these adjustments and see what happens.

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Default 06-17-2017, 10:28 AM

Thanks Billet...

Curious why fol was set to 75? We're your trims and afr high?

Also why duty bias at 0 instead of defaults?


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Since many people have asked me and have had some luck using my settings as a baseline, I am posting them for people to take a look at. Keep in mind that my setup is below and these settings will likely not work for your vehicle if your setup is different.

Current Setup:
  • B58 Engine
  • MPPSK
  • JB4
  • EWG Wires
  • FF Wires
  • ~E20-E25/91 Octane Fuel

Settings are as follows:
  • Map 6 - 17.0 across the board
  • Fuel Bias - 0 across the board
  • Duty Bias - 0 across the board
  • FOL - 75
  • FUA - 10
  • FUD - 64

These settings resulted in smoother power delivery for me over Maps 1-3, but may not for you. I would try the default settings, log, then make these adjustments and see what happens.

Please do not blame me if your engine blows up.
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Default 06-17-2017, 10:47 AM

Honestly, I really don't know why my duty bias are all 0 for Map 6. That's what they were when I created my Map 6, and it seems to be working for me on the street. I think it needs some tweaking but I haven't found the roads or the time yet.

It is my understanding that each map stores it's own duty bias and fuel bias settings. You need to actually be in that map prior to changing the settings. I do not remember this being the same on the N54 firmware.


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Default 06-17-2017, 10:54 AM

Running E20-E25 forced me to increase my FOL. Terry told me to test at 0, 60, and 80. I settled on 75 since it seems to be working well for me. Terry told me to keep it at 60, but I think 75 resulted in lower trims.


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Default 06-17-2017, 12:25 PM

440 mppsk shell 93

Ff wires installed

Thanks

0 for me is very stable but my trims are high (45) but always come down very quickly to normal range (30s) ... lease amount of stutter

At 60 trims are flat normal (20s and 30s) but too much stuttering ... feels like something is choking but randomly ...

This is good info... thanks for sharing!

Hopefully the thread continues on what is working what is not

The logs don't tell the whole story... they good good but you still feel the odd uneven acceleration (i.e. Loss of power then stutter then gain in power is how I can describe)

Raining so maybe tomorrow I can install the ewg wires
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Default 06-24-2017, 06:43 PM

Hi Guys, I am using 20i B48, on map 6 and will post my experience as this is one of only threads on map 6.

I think I am pushing it a bit hard as it runs lean, and want to get WMI ASAP, as soon as I can figure out how to mount injectors as BMS doesn't offer anything for B48 yet.

FYI using a P-BOX I get decent improvement in 40-125 km (2000-6250 RPM) 3rd gear pull, or the typical log file.
MAP 0: 10 seconds (10 PSI peak falls to 7 at 6k)
MAP 7: 7.5 seconds (16 PSI peak falls to 11 at 6K)
MAP 6: 6.9 seconds (18 PSI peak falls to 15 at 6k)

Current Setup:
B48 Engine
JB4
EWG Wires
FF Wires
93 Octane Fuel

Settings are as follows:
MAP 6 Boost - see jpg (17 PSI form 3500-6000 and taper)
Fuel Bias - 0
Duty Bias - see jpg (seems key to get this tuned for smoothness)
FOL - 60 (note that higher values no benefit for me)
FF - auto (around 70-80)
FUA - 0 (tried 10 but went back to 0)
FUD - 64

Logs attached, also appreciate it if you guys can post your logs as well, as I think timing and other parameters may be similar with 48/58, it is still of interest to be as there is little info on B48 right now.
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Default 06-24-2017, 06:56 PM

I know nothing about the B48. Sorry.


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Running E20-E25 forced me to increase my FOL. Terry told me to test at 0, 60, and 80. I settled on 75 since it seems to be working well for me. Terry told me to keep it at 60, but I think 75 resulted in lower trims.
Was maxing out trims too 49/49 and they were pinned through 3rd gear.

Installed FF wires, set FOL to 60-65 with nothing. Tried 75 and the trims dropped at 4500+ RPM quickly -- big win.

But the AFR was not affected....are you seeing something similar? (Log attached)
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Default 07-09-2017, 09:46 AM

I don't think lowering the trims has much of an effect on AFR. But I do believe it helps keep HPFP pressure up. I recently put my engine into limp mode due to HPFP crash two times in a row with FOL at 60. Running FOL at 75, that's never happened. Keep in mind that this is with E20 - E25.

What fuel are you running?


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I don't think lowering the trims has much of an effect on AFR. But I do believe it helps keep HPFP pressure up. I recently put my engine into limp mode due to HPFP crash two times in a row with FOL at 60. Running FOL at 75, that's never happened. Keep in mind that this is with E20 - E25.

What fuel are you running?
E25 as well - 1/4 E85 + 3/4 93 octane (w/10% ethanol).

Has been working wonderfully so far! Going to install EWG later this week.


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Default 07-09-2017, 09:22 PM

Your log looks pretty good. I can't figure out your AFR rise after 5,500 RPM. Can you try logging in 4th gear?

Also, how did you get your FF at 51? 50 should be max. Set it to 50 and it should learn down.

Any reason you don't want to enable 6 cylinder logging?


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Your log looks pretty good. I can't figure out your AFR rise after 5,500 RPM. Can you try logging in 4th gear?

Also, how did you get your FF at 51? 50 should be max. Set it to 50 and it should learn down.

Any reason you don't want to enable 6 cylinder logging?

AFR rise after 5,500 RPM. Can you try logging in 4th gear?
Sure, will log tomorrow if its dry out!

Also, how did you get your FF at 51?
Definitely fat-fingered that accidentally lol

Any reason you don't want to enable 6 cylinder logging?
Not exactly sure what that does? Are there any docs/posts on it, or would you mind explaining?


PS: Thanks for all your help on this - the car is running like a champ!!


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AFR rise after 5,500 RPM. Can you try logging in 4th gear?
Sure, will log tomorrow if its dry out!

Also, how did you get your FF at 51?
Definitely fat-fingered that accidentally lol

Any reason you don't want to enable 6 cylinder logging?
Not exactly sure what that does? Are there any docs/posts on it, or would you mind explaining?


PS: Thanks for all your help on this - the car is running like a champ!!
6 cylinder logging, logs the timing on all 6 cylinders allowing the user to see if the car is pulling timing on any particular cylinder more than the other. This could hint at an issue with that cylinder, whether it be spark plugs, coil, or fuel injector related, and a whole host of other possible issues.


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M Power and Performance Sound Kit = A BMW factory tune plus full exhaust


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lol for the sound kit. So basically they combined the M exhaust with MPPK as package finally. Wish they done the same for mine still the have it as separate buy!
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Its the M Exhaust with removed resonators, with new mid-pipe and the ability to turn off or on the noise using Sport/Sport + mode (a new valve that bypasses the muffler itself) - its actually a real nice setup... I love it.

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Alright, did a 4th gear pull (attached) and the AFR seems much better. AFR only creeps above 14.5 in low RPMs where there is not too much boost.

I wonder if setting FF/Waste gate adaption back to 50 did the trick? lol

Also, attempted to turn on 6-cyl logging but apparently it's not a boolean (0 or 1) setting, but a FUD setting (bit6 - Enable cyl 2-6 timing logging (reduces CANbus sample rate on other parameters)? Not familiar with these yet, how do I go about activating it?
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What does FUD at 64 do? I have a similar setup on my map 6 but I'm maxing out trims. Trying to solve that issue.


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What does FUD at 64 do? I have a similar setup on my map 6 but I'm maxing out trims. Trying to solve that issue.
FOL + FF Wires will help with trims.

Recommended FOL is 60, however, several other users and myself with **'s have had better luck with a FOL of 70-75.

Try increasing FOL in increments of 5 (starting at 60) until the trims begin to drop after ~4500 RPMs


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What does FUD at 64 do? I have a similar setup on my map 6 but I'm maxing out trims. Trying to solve that issue.
This thread is pretty specific to the B58 and it's difficulties in tuning, at the moment. But FUD is just a series of yes/no, on/off settings that are calculated by the JB4 Windows and mobile apps. 64 is just the combination that I am currently using. It will be different for each engine and firmware.


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Thanks everyone for the suggestions and explanations


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Bullitt my car 340 MPPSK will be arriving here in a couple weeks I’m located in So Cal so only have access to 91 and wanted to see about mixing a couple gallons of E85 in. I read the power kit is only designed for 93 octane really. And BMS is tuning pretty much every n55 on E85 mix. Any negative effects to the engine running a mix like that?
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Bullitt my car 340 MPPSK will be arriving here in a couple weeks Iím located in So Cal so only have access to 91 and wanted to see about mixing a couple gallons of E85 in. I read the power kit is only designed for 93 octane really. And BMS is tuning pretty much every n55 on E85 mix. Any negative effects to the engine running a mix like that?
No negative effects of running ethanol in any modern BMW. But if you have a JB4 on the B58 engine, you really should mix any E85 AND run any additive maps (1,2,3,5). You should only stick to the absolute maps (6 and 7, 7 requires meth) and very strictly follow these settings. Any more ethanol and you will run way too lean.


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