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Default 02-19-2011, 11:46 AM

Has anyone tried the map 4 and can tell if the consumption is lower?

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Default 02-19-2011, 11:48 AM

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How about that rev-matched down shifting thing Terry, I'm sure you'll get a lot of takers to test it out for you when you get it created....
mm.. and downshifts to first gear instead of second (in M mode) for us auto users

probably not very useful, but it will make the car feel more "pure" for lack of a better adjective
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Default 02-19-2011, 11:53 AM

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Has anyone tried the map 4 and can tell if the consumption is lower?

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Right now, map 4 is the same as stock in terms of fuel economy. But fixing that is on the to-do list!


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Default 02-19-2011, 11:55 AM

has there been enough data collected on map 5 to say that it is safe to use as a daily driver on car with only JB4 and DCI running 91, or should I stick to map 1 for now?
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Default 02-19-2011, 12:07 PM

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Right now, map 4 is the same as stock in terms of fuel economy. But fixing that is on the to-do list!
then, still we donīt use this map to reduce consumption?


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Default 02-19-2011, 12:13 PM

It is like running map 0, or your stock tuning. Mileage might be a touch better than the performance map all around if you go heavier on the throttle but for sustained cruising no real change. Yet!


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Default 02-19-2011, 01:05 PM

ok, then we must wait it, but it is very interesting, especially for driving city


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Default 02-19-2011, 02:09 PM

COnnected and hit upload firmware but nothing happens. Any ideas?
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Default 02-19-2011, 02:21 PM

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COnnected and hit upload firmware but nothing happens. Any ideas?
It takes a good while to upload the firmware. Many minutes. Look at the text block at the bottom of your screen, and it will show you the progress. It counts up to about 417 from Zero.


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Default 02-19-2011, 02:21 PM

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has there been enough data collected on map 5 to say that it is safe to use as a daily driver on car with only JB4 and DCI running 91, or should I stick to map 1 for now?
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Default 02-19-2011, 02:26 PM

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It takes a good while to upload the firmware. Many minutes. Look at the text block at the bottom of your screen, and it will show you the progress. It counts up to about 417 from Zero.
yes, bottom left hand corner of the logging tab shows "Status".
You should also get a message right before upload starts.
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Default 02-19-2011, 03:22 PM

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has there been enough data collected on map 5 to say that it is safe to use as a daily driver on car with only JB4 and DCI running 91, or should I stick to map 1 for now?
Load up the 2/18 version, do some logs, and shoot them in. But so far all has looked safe on 91.


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Default 02-19-2011, 04:21 PM

i cant even get the upload to start
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Default 02-19-2011, 04:27 PM

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Load up the 2/18 version, do some logs, and shoot them in. But so far all has looked safe on 91.
ok will do
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Default 02-19-2011, 04:42 PM

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i cant even get the upload to start
There are many variables to check.
Firmware downloaded to PC
PC hooked to JB4 cable
Ignition on, but engine not running
Open JB4 > logging > file >"connect" > then chose 'upload firmware'
Find latest firmware on PC > 'open' or 'start'
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Default 02-19-2011, 04:46 PM

thanks, ill try again
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Default 02-19-2011, 04:48 PM

Has Map 5 so far been shown to be more powerful/faster than Map2 with autopid?


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Default 02-19-2011, 05:08 PM

For a few but for most they are winding up below map 2 levels based on the safety criteria.


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Default 02-19-2011, 05:10 PM

Downloaded just 0202 firmware today, and map5 seems to be more conservative to my butt dyno than map1 on 0201. Don't even know if I want to download 0218 since I read its map5 is even more conservative than 0202...


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Default 02-19-2011, 05:34 PM

i wish i could get any logs done. when the roads are clear i have ZERO traction in 3rd gr even if i start @ 65-70mph.I dont want to get into 4th gr pulls around this way. i may have to make a special trip back to Atco just for logs again (opens up next weekend)
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Default 02-19-2011, 05:37 PM

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Downloaded just 0202 firmware today, and map5 seems to be more conservative to my butt dyno than map1 on 0201. Don't even know if I want to download 0218 since I read its map5 is even more conservative than 0202...
Load it and log it, and we'll see!


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Default 02-20-2011, 12:51 AM

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For a few but for most they are winding up below map 2 levels based on the safety criteria.
I have expected this ,thats y i didnt upload the new firmware ,it will always be a trade off between POWER and SAFETY ,what ur doing now terry ,is to reduce the the gap.
i think ur map 5 needs lots and lots of testing...it worth the try though...
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Default 02-20-2011, 10:49 AM

do you think we can get a control through the steering wheel to reset to default? i.e. incase you want all settings back to how they would be the first time you got the jb4?

is this a viable option or useless to others?
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I have expected this ,thats y i didnt upload the new firmware ,it will always be a trade off between POWER and SAFETY ,what ur doing now terry ,is to reduce the the gap.
i think ur map 5 needs lots and lots of testing...it worth the try though...
Maps 1, 2, and 7 are unchanged. So definitely upgrade for the other little fixes we throw in there. Even if you don't plan to ever run map 5.


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Default 02-20-2011, 12:30 PM

Terry found out the source of my oil leak, one of the oil coolers lines split somehow and under high pressure sprayed oil everywhere. Hopefully be fixed next week, so until then I wont be able to get logs . A friend of mine just got his in but isnt familiar with updating firmware and the interface. I'll help him out and get some logs off of that and send it in.
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