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Default Log review please: Pre to Post E85 BEF N54 - 05-11-2019, 04:46 PM

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Finally got around flashing my DME with E85 BEF so I did some logs before and after the flash.

It seems post flash my boost is bit less on target than previously. Any advise on what settings to adjust to bring it more on target?



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Default 05-11-2019, 05:10 PM

Seems like FF may need to be raised a bit, and you might need even more duty bias at the top end then you have already. The curve seems to be maxed because it flattens out, might need some other advanced settings to tune it. However, PWM is maxed about 5500 RPM and up on the post-flash log, so there isn't anything left to give. Not sure why you needed so much more WGDC for the same boost level after the flash... Did anything else change?
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Default 05-11-2019, 06:01 PM

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Seems like FF may need to be raised a bit, and you might need even more duty bias at the top end then you have already. The curve seems to be maxed because it flattens out, might need some other advanced settings to tune it. However, PWM is maxed about 5500 RPM and up on the post-flash log, so there isn't anything left to give. Not sure why you needed so much more WGDC for the same boost level after the flash... Did anything else change?
Nope didn't change a thing
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Default 05-13-2019, 12:12 AM

The “post” log- was this the first pull after the flash?


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The “post” log- was this the first pull after the flash?
Nah it wasn’t. Did drove it around for 15 mins and did couple full pulls before logging. Does it take bit longer to self adjust after flash than normally?
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Nah it wasn’t. Did drove it around for 15 mins and did couple full pulls before logging. Does it take bit longer to self adjust after flash than normally?
Imo logs tend to get a bit cleaner after a few WOT pulls and as you drive the car a bit.

Assuming u still have the flash on- how does the car feel?


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Imo logs tend to get a bit cleaner after a few WOT pulls and as you drive the car a bit.

Assuming u still have the flash on- how does the car feel?
Car feels great! Can definitely tell the difference all around. Lot smoother power generation even in moderate throttle. Close loop operation is much improved as well as in part throttle where I figure JB4 isn't doing much and letting DME do the heavy lifting
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Car feels great! Can definitely tell the difference all around. Lot smoother power generation even in moderate throttle. Close loop operation is much improved as well as in part throttle where I figure JB4 isn't doing much and letting DME do the heavy lifting
Best of both worlds imo.

We can get a little more aggressive if you wish


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Best of both worlds imo.

We can get a little more aggressive if you wish
That would be good. But let me re-log this weekend and we can go from there
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That would be good. But let me re-log this weekend and we can go from there


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alright. Back with some more logs. Looks bit better at the low end with the boost but looks like at the top I'm still not hitting the target. Or is that normal on stockers?
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alright. Back with some more logs. Looks bit better at the low end with the boost but looks like at the top I'm still not hitting the target. Or is that normal on stockers?
That’s pretty normal for stockers, especially if running stock inlets


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That’s pretty normal for stockers, especially if running stock inlets
Yah still on stock inlets as well, thought I "reamed" them out a little when I had the engine out.

Would silicone inlets make a huge difference in getting the boost on target at the top end? Just wondering if they are worth the hassle of install
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Yah still on stock inlets as well, thought I "reamed" them out a little when I had the engine out.

Would silicone inlets make a huge difference in getting the boost on target at the top end? Just wondering if they are worth the hassle of install
Inlets would help, but the stock turbos can only do “so much” - would it make things more efficient, yes- but you’d still be pushing things pretty hard.

With the low cost of inlets, imo it’s worth it, but install can be a PITA


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