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Default CHARGE PIPE INJECTION (CPI) by Fuel-IT - 05-20-2019, 01:05 PM

Has anyone tried this yet? What would be the advantage over WMI?

I've heard PI is not an option for our cars.

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Default 05-20-2019, 11:57 PM

I've used similar before. WMI is best if you don't have a BEF. With a BEF, you could go either way. I still prefer WMI. This is a great addition if you upgrade the turbo. As I see it, with our stock turbo, WMI is best option and offers future expansion if needed. (Larger nozzles)

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Default 05-21-2019, 09:47 AM

I'm using this on my M5 and Porsche turbo S. I personally love it.

I'm working on a kit for the B58 right now. It will take some time, but I think it's worth it!


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Default help mates - 05-22-2019, 09:07 AM

ok so now i have the bms meth kit and saw the charge pipe injection kit that fuel it have, question can i use the meth ans the fuel kit together, what are the cons about it, and want to install the stage 2 turbo kit from pure.
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ok so now i have the bms meth kit and saw the charge pipe injection kit that fuel it have, question can i use the meth ans the fuel kit together, what are the cons about it, and want to install the stage 2 turbo kit from pure.
We haven't tested CPI and Meth injection. AFAIK you can't run both, I'd stick to the CPI and put e50 blend and never have to worry about filling the meth thank, purging, etc.


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Default 05-22-2019, 10:42 AM

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We haven't tested CPI and Meth injection. AFAIK you can't run both, I'd stick to the CPI and put e50 blend and never have to worry about filling the meth thank, purging, etc.
Payam... What's consumption like on E85 setups? My knowledge is that it takes more fuel to make the same power, but it's lower cost helps average it out. I've always leaned towards WMI for added cooling/octane benefits with no loss in overall mpg. Just curious how E85 mixes, on additional injection applications, compare. Especially with direct injection vehicles as much knowledge is primarily off of port and/or TB injection.
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Payam... What's consumption like on E85 setups? My knowledge is that it takes more fuel to make the same power, but it's lower cost helps average it out. I've always leaned towards WMI for added cooling/octane benefits with no loss in overall mpg. Just curious how E85 mixes, on additional injection applications, compare. Especially with direct injection vehicles as much knowledge is primarily off of port and/or TB injection.
Full e85 will need 30% more fuel volume. I like e50 blend though, I use that on M5 and Porsche. It doesn't use that much more fuel, but I like it better than methanol.


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Full e85 will need 30% more fuel volume. I like e50 blend though, I use that on M5 and Porsche. It doesn't use that much more fuel, but I like it better than methanol.
Good to know, thank you. Is there a reason why you prefer it over methanol?
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Good to know, thank you. Is there a reason why you prefer it over methanol?
Easier to use, but not everyone has access to e85. That's why we have both options available meth injection and CPI.


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Default 05-29-2019, 11:30 PM

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Easier to use, but not everyone has access to e85. That's why we have both options available meth injection and CPI.
That's why I keep going WMI. The E85 isn't readily available to me or my area. Great input, thank you.
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