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Question N55 Turbo Outlet Charge Pipe - Install - 04-06-2019, 03:07 PM

I can't find any information or videos out there for the N55. I bought the VRSF charge pipe, intercooler, and turbo outlet charge pipe. Right now I am stuck at getting the outlet pipe off. Any tips?


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Remove the clip and pull?
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Default 04-06-2019, 04:54 PM

Either people have elf hands or the perfect tools to remove that C clip. I finally got it, but it was quite annoying.


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Default 04-07-2019, 12:22 PM

If you need anymore help post in here. I did it all to my n55 f33


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Default 04-08-2019, 03:31 AM

After installing everything, I am getting error code 118002 (mixture too rich) and it’s not driving quite right. That is the same error I got when the original charge pipe blew. Reading on another forum, someone else had the same issue and it ended up being there was leak after he installed the new charge pipe. Hopefully that is my issue.


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After installing everything, I am getting error code 118002 (mixture too rich) and itís not driving quite right. That is the same error I got when the original charge pipe blew. Reading on another forum, someone else had the same issue and it ended up being there was leak after he installed the new charge pipe. Hopefully that is my issue.
check and make sure the elbow is tightened down well on both ends. My mistake when installing the CP was i didn't tighten it too much because i was scared to crush the pipe.

After 3 or 4 attempts i was finally like F it, and tightened that sucker down - haven't had a problem sience.


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check and make sure the elbow is tightened down well on both ends. My mistake when installing the CP was i didn't tighten it too much because i was scared to crush the pipe.

After 3 or 4 attempts i was finally like F it, and tightened that sucker down - haven't had a problem sience.
That could definitely be the case. Are we talking tighten to the point that you canít tighten it anymore?


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Default 04-08-2019, 05:54 AM

Sounds like a dumb question but people forget all the time. Did you put the O-Ring back in when installing the charge pipe. And the Outlwt


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Sounds like a dumb question but people forget all the time. Did you put the O-Ring back in when installing the charge pipe. And the Outlwt
Not a dumb question. I did, but reused the one from the old outlet pipe and wondering if that can be an issue. The o-ring that came with the VRSF didn't seem to fill the gap as good as the one on the old outlet pipe which had more of a rectangular shape.


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Default 04-08-2019, 06:25 AM

I just did my outlet on Saturday in my 2011 n55 135. I thought the same thing as well but my brother convinced me to use the new one. So he put it inside in the little crevice for it and we threw it on. I’m always with the philosophy of new parts new seals/O-ring/bolts/washers etc. If you think you have a boost leak easiest way is to smoke test it. Keep us updated with what is the culprit. Always good to have more info. O good luck. You’ll get it straightened out. The stress of modding ����


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Not a dumb question. I did, but reused the one from the old outlet pipe and wondering if that can be an issue. The o-ring that came with the VRSF didn't seem to fill the gap as good as the one on the old outlet pipe which had more of a rectangular shape.
I just did my outlet on my 2011 n55 135. I understand what your saying about the O-Ring and how it looks. My brother convinced me to use the new one and put it inside in that little crevice it sits in and slapped it on. He is a firm believer in new part=new seal, O-Ring, gasket, nuts&bolts, washers etc. maybe a little excessive but itís always been good to him. Keep us updated on whatís causing it. Always good to have more info. Youíll get it all straightened out. The joys of modding


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Default 04-08-2019, 06:38 AM

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I just did my outlet on my 2011 n55 135. I understand what your saying about the O-Ring and how it looks. My brother convinced me to use the new one and put it inside in that little crevice it sits in and slapped it on. He is a firm believer in new part=new seal, O-Ring, gasket, nuts&bolts, washers etc. maybe a little excessive but itís always been good to him. Keep us updated on whatís causing it. Always good to have more info. Youíll get it all straightened out. The joys of modding
The o-ring was optional to buy with the pipe, so maybe the original should work. Either way, I wish I did a smoke test before re-installing everything on my car.


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The o-ring was optional to buy with the pipe, so maybe the original should work. Either way, I wish I did a smoke test before re-installing everything on my car.
Well one way to know if you have a boost leak is to load up Map5 or map2 and log - check your PWM metric if its maxed out and not hitting target 99% chance you have a boost leak.


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Well one way to know if you have a boost leak is to load up Map5 or map2 and log - check your PWM metric if its maxed out and not hitting target 99% chance you have a boost leak.
I actually just so happen to log on my way home after the install, especially since it didn't feel right.

Attached is the log.
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I actually just so happen to log on my way home after the install, especially since it didn't feel right.

Attached is the log.
Thanks, but what you need to do is, turn logging on, accelerate to about 30/40mph then shift into 3rd gear and then pedal to the floor to redline or close to that. Let off, stop logging and send over.


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Thanks, but what you need to do is, turn logging on, accelerate to about 30/40mph then shift into 3rd gear and then pedal to the floor to redline or close to that. Let off, stop logging and send over.
From what you sent though.




I could be wrong, just a novice here but been messing with jb4 for 2 years - you are not hitting your target PSI even though you WGDC is pretty high and your trims are up there even though you're boosting low so there is probably a leak somewhere.

Another pull like i said above should help.


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That could definitely be the case. Are we talking tighten to the point that you canít tighten it anymore?
Not that tight, but it took me a couple times of loosing everything and tightening everything and really clamping down the pipe clamps but not to the point i couldn't turn anymore. They are aluminum i think so i'm sure you could crush them if you kept going, but don't be scared to turn them down either.


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Thanks, but what you need to do is, turn logging on, accelerate to about 30/40mph then shift into 3rd gear and then pedal to the floor to redline or close to that. Let off, stop logging and send over.
Yup, I am familiar with that. After I installed the JB4, the CEL kept coming on. Below are the typical tuner ignore codes, but before figuring out what was causing the CEL, the charge pipe blew.


101F01 Throttle valve opening angle pressure -- Ignore, tuner code
122108 BOV plausibility -- Ignore, tuner code


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Yup, I am familiar with that. After I installed the JB4, the CEL kept coming on. Below are the typical tuner ignore codes, but before figuring out what was causing the CEL, the charge pipe blew.


101F01 Throttle valve opening angle pressure -- Ignore, tuner code
122108 BOV plausibility -- Ignore, tuner code
ah ya - this is the fun stuff - well keep at it. Sounds like you're almost there though.


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From what you sent though.




I could be wrong, just a novice here but been messing with jb4 for 2 years - you are not hitting your target PSI even though you WGDC is pretty high and your trims are up there even though you're boosting low so there is probably a leak somewhere.

Another pull like i said above should help.
I basically redid everything. I used the o-ring that came with the outlet pipe. I'm not sure if it is supposed to be this way, but both ***** only have an o-ring for the top part of the connection to the turbo and throttle body. Going to the intercooler, I just reused the existing o-rings. The silicon connectors are much tighter now.

I'm no longer getting errors or strange behavior when there was a leak, but I don't seem to always be hitting the target boost. I also don't understand why the duty cycle isn't all 50's even though that is how I have it set.

Attached is the latest log with the 3rd gear run. Let me know what you think.
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Yup, I am familiar with that. After I installed the JB4, the CEL kept coming on. Below are the typical tuner ignore codes, but before figuring out what was causing the CEL, the charge pipe blew.


101F01 Throttle valve opening angle pressure -- Ignore, tuner code
122108 BOV plausibility -- Ignore, tuner code
Do you have (a) kitten-less down pipe(s), and live in the US?
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My car is all good now. I removed the JB4, cleared error codes, and drove the car for about a week. No more error codes came up, car ran normal minus the additional power. Went and got the car dyno tuned and now runs amazing. Still now error codes, power is much better and smooth. Sixth gear doesn't have the issue it did before. The car is just perfect on the highway in any gear. I can just breath on the gas pedal and it accelerates with no lag. I practically don't need third gear anymore. Couldn't be happier.


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