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Default CM Meth Nozzle difference - 08-24-2018, 09:58 AM

is a cm10 nozzle from 7 yrs ago different from a cm10 nozzle from 2yrs ago?i have both.from looks i see the newer one isnt as tapered as the older one.But is the spray pattern the same?

Now i also have a newer cm07 nozzle.
Reason for my questions is because my older cm10 nozzle threads on body is bad.i want to use the cm10 instead of a cm07.can i just replace the cm07 internal with the old cm10 internal but use the newer cm07 body?
I want to run dual cm10 setup instead of a cm10&cm07.


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Default 08-24-2018, 10:07 AM

We recently started making our own nozzles, BM7 and BM10, to get the quality up and incorporate some nozzle features CM wouldn't do for us.

http://www.burgertuning.com/meth.html





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Default 08-24-2018, 10:49 AM

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We recently started making our own nozzles, BM7 and BM10, to get the quality up and incorporate some nozzle features CM wouldn't do for us.

http://www.burgertuning.com/meth.html



thats nice but i just bought the newer version cm10&cm07 from you last year.also i purchased bunch of extra compression adapters and tee fittings from you at that same time.


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Default 08-24-2018, 12:17 PM

I don't know if the inserts on the cm nozzle variants can be swapped over. But you could fill the tank with water, swap them around, test spray in to a bottle, and measure the flow and check the spray pattern visually to ensure it's doing what you want it to do.


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Default 08-26-2018, 11:01 AM

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I don't know if the inserts on the cm nozzle variants can be swapped over. But you could fill the tank with water, swap them around, test spray in to a bottle, and measure the flow and check the spray pattern visually to ensure it's doing what you want it to do.
Thanks for your input


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Default 08-31-2019, 11:59 AM

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I don't know if the inserts on the cm nozzle variants can be swapped over. But you could fill the tank with water, swap them around, test spray in to a bottle, and measure the flow and check the spray pattern visually to ensure it's doing what you want it to do.
Hi Terry,

any updates on the comparison with the new BM nozzles vs the CM nozzles?
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Hi Terry,

any updates on the comparison with the new BM nozzles vs the CM nozzles?
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Default 09-03-2019, 09:38 AM

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What's the comparison that you need?


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Default 09-03-2019, 12:16 PM

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What's the comparison that you need?



Hmm.. wondering how different is the BM one compared to the CM nozzle.. maybe in terms of build quality and how/if it affects performance?
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Default 09-04-2019, 03:42 AM

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What's the comparison that you need?
is there any differences in spray pattern or volume.
is it worth to change my nozzles to BM.


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Default 09-04-2019, 03:48 AM

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thats nice but i just bought the newer version cm10&cm07 from you last year.also i purchased bunch of extra compression adapters and tee fittings from you at that same time.
changing the CM internal won't work, as I notice the CM7 and CM10 volume difference control isn't with the internal it's with the opening whole in it externally.


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Default 09-04-2019, 10:06 AM

I'm curious on details of how the latest BM design is better than the CM.

I've purchased two BM nozzles and will be ordering a 3rd shortly.
Both the BM10 and (later ordered) BM5 had loose (backed off) inserts, resulting in the spray pattern being very long and narrow.
The BM10 even bogged engine until corrected. I was dropping 1 inch from the 1 gallon tank per 3rd gear run until tightened, then my consumption went much less than half of that.

As soon as I tightened the insert, the spray pattern went very wide and short, atomizing infinitely better. (I've posted videos elsewhere here, but can post here if requested)

As the insert tightens metal to metal, I can't help wonder if the vibrations will allow the insert to back-off again, by itself.

Thus, I wonder if BM vs CM is to address this? Or other?


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Default 09-04-2019, 10:09 AM

I can't comment on the CM stuff, but there's a reason why we had to make our own.

Our BM nozzles are made in USA and machined to our standards with atomization and flow.


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