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Default 11-11-2013, 04:25 PM

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Ok. Can you explain more?
Thanks.
I'll try 7603541, 7601494, and let you know compared to 7603527.
I am going to reset adaptations and give it a go for a couple of days. If all goes well, I will try loading 3527 again. Maybe I wasn't facing east and all that good stuff when I tried loading it.
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Default 11-11-2013, 05:32 PM

The Alpina flash can't be installed on build dates below 03/07; how about this software? I'm rolling in an 09/06 build and wondering if I would be able to install it.




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Default 11-11-2013, 06:13 PM

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The Alpina flash can't be installed on build dates below 03/07; how about this software? I'm rolling in an 09/06 build and wondering if I would be able to install it.
I am not sure. I would guess that you would run into the same problem as the B3 flash since it would require the same programming parameters.
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Default 11-11-2013, 07:14 PM

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Flashed the 7601494 successfully. D mode feels much more like normal. S mode stays in gear longer than the B3. Mine would shift at about 2800 - 3000 RPM on flat ground with minimal throttle. It now shifts at about 3300 - 3500. M mode is more impressive than the B3 at shifts. The car slams into gear and I had wheel spin from 1st to 2nd on both occasions when letting it shift by itself. This is new for me since I am an xi. However, it is too early for me to say that I will stick with this one. Lets see how it goes once adaptation happens. But for now, I like it!
Wow, that sounds promising. I need to play with 2011 flash for a few days since I reset adaptations. I might try the 1494 flash after to compare. I drive mostly in D and M mode so that's what is important to me.


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Default 11-13-2013, 02:29 PM

I've just uploaded the 7603541 one (european version).
I'll let you know compared to the 2 others.


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Default 11-13-2013, 03:00 PM

No more information about UIF?


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Default 11-13-2013, 03:41 PM

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Gave the "car on lift" error in the dash. Didn't shift properly. Started out in 2nd. Wouldn't go into S mode and the paddles didn't work.
Sometimes after flashing you have to drive the car to get it to shift into first. Also, the EGS module gets out of sync on cars with EGS paddle values that are different. You just need to use NCS to flash the factory default to the EGS module. Load Expert Mode, F1, F3, E89, CAS, F6, F4, EGS, F2, SG_CODIEREN, F3...
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Default 11-13-2013, 03:43 PM

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Sometimes after flashing you have to drive the car to get it to shift into first. Also, the EGS module gets out of sync on cars with EGS paddle values that are different. You just need to use NCS to flash the factory default to the EGS module. Load Expert Mode, F1, F3, E89, CAS, F6, F4, EGS, F2, SG_CODIEREN, F3...
Thanks Wedge, I will give it a shot!
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Default 11-13-2013, 06:25 PM

Hm, maybe I should try this new 2011 flash... I like my gear indicators all the time though.


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Default 11-14-2013, 09:43 AM

Curious about this myself, though I wonder if the TQ levels are raised in either one as the Alpina flash's are reputed to be.

Also someone maybe can verifiy or refute this: does flashing the tranny reset adaptations? The reason I am asking is going out and driving hard after immediately flashing is not going to be reflective of what the adapted patterns will be like. Maybe speed of shifting but firmness of engagement may just be it hasn't adapted yet.

Lot to like about the Alpina I wish someone could crack it to tweak some of the minor annoying stuff. Mainly D mode. Main reason I like it aside from the better display and faster shifts in S and M is assumed higher TQ rating for the B3 engine. Over time I hope this keeps it from grenading longer as the mods stack up.
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Default 11-14-2013, 09:54 AM

I have been driving on the 7601494 for several days now. I will not be going back to the B3. I have found that I drive more in D mode than any other and it is so much easier to drive. There is definitely a difference in the quickness of the shifts in both S and M modes with the 1494 vs the B3.
Side note - I had my emissions done with the B3 flash loaded. The tech had trouble keeping the RPM line on the screen matched up because of the lame D mode. Afterwards he said "your car sure doesn't respond very well". If he only knew!
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Default 11-14-2013, 10:09 AM

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I have been driving on the 7601494 for several days now. I will not be going back to the B3. I have found that I drive more in D mode than any other and it is so much easier to drive. There is definitely a difference in the quickness of the shifts in both S and M modes with the 1494 vs the B3.
which one is the faster between 1494 and the B3 in S and M mode ?


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Default 11-14-2013, 10:10 AM

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I have been driving on the 7601494 for several days now. I will not be going back to the B3. I have found that I drive more in D mode than any other and it is so much easier to drive. There is definitely a difference in the quickness of the shifts in both S and M modes with the 1494 vs the B3.
Side note - I had my emissions done with the B3 flash loaded. The tech had trouble keeping the RPM line on the screen matched up because of the lame D mode. Afterwards he said "your car sure doesn't respond very well". If he only knew!
Very interesting may have to try this over the weekend. Did you have any problems resetting adaptations? When I first did the Alpina I had to add a GS19D (or something) file before INPA would allow it to reset.

Also did you figure why 1494 did not work first time?

Anybody do this (1494) on a car in which the paddles had to be reactivated? On the Alpina I had to do an additional step in NCSexpert to reactivate paddles and I am not sure if my NCSexpert is still configured to do that.
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Default 11-14-2013, 10:47 AM

I had problems with the 3527 not the 1494. I reset adaptations by pushing the start button (without the brake) then holding the gas pedal to the floor for 30 seconds.
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I had problems with the 3527 not the 1494. I reset adaptations by pushing the start button (without the brake) then holding the gas pedal to the floor for 30 seconds.
I do not think that resets actual internal tranny adaptations, or so I have read. You need INPA or similar to do a full reset. Then there is a drive cycle you go thru, or drive around for 50-100 miles doing progressively more into the throttle.
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Default 11-14-2013, 12:09 PM

I've done it both ways. Seems to do the same thing.
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Default 11-14-2013, 12:10 PM

sure would be easier
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Default 11-14-2013, 12:37 PM

which one is the faster between 1494 and the B3 in S and M mode ?


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which one is the faster between 1494 and the B3 in S and M mode ?
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Default 11-14-2013, 01:21 PM

Just to expand on adaptations, my understanding (which may not be correct) is there are two levels. One is a minutes or hours type of thing that adapts to recent driver behavior, eg aggressive or mild.

The second is about internal parts, fluid age/wear, clutch wear etc. This is much longer term maybe even cumulative and is about the state of the hard parts (I imagine stuff like how hard the clutches have to be actuated to achieve a certain level of engagement criteria).

The former adaptations is what the pedal reset does. The latter is what the INPA reset does. WRT new flash, I'd think you want the latter, as it would be about achieving targets as far as state of mechanical guts. For example, after you change fluid you do the latter.

The latter version also is where you do the drive cycle, which makes sense if anything internal has changed.

Maybe some BMW tech could chime in on this Q, there is no real definitive explanation outon the web. So the Q is when updating TCU software what adaptation should be done?

edit: forgot to add this. It is the INPA reset on an Alpina flash where another GS19D (ipo whatever) file was needed before it could be accomplished.

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Default 11-15-2013, 02:21 PM

One thing I forgot to mention. I have a ProTune by ProTuneFreaks. Jake enhanced my D-mode to feel a lot like my S-mode. So, my D is a bit more aggressive!
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Default 11-15-2013, 03:26 PM

Here is the gs19d.ipo file needed:

http://www.bimmerboost.com/attachmen...8&d=1377763491

All instructions here:
http://www.bimmerboost.com/showthrea...d-ZBEL87_2-IPO


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Default 11-15-2013, 03:35 PM

After each new TCU flash upload, I highly recommend to reste adaptations with INPA And with the 30 seconds quickdown pedal thing too, and drive at least 100 miles before making your opinion.


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Default 11-16-2013, 08:41 AM

Just to be clear, the GS19D file is needed to reset adaptations via INPA for the Alpina flash. This file is not automatically included in the daten files that the Alpina file is found in. If you try to reset adaptations via INPA without this file present in the right folder, you cannot even get to the reset menu, you get an error.

So it seems like people who were flashing the B3 Alpina were not resetting it this way, and frankly couldn't since a file is missing. I assumed it would be reset after a new flash but it isn't. When I tried to reset I got an error, until I included the GS19D file from another source. It seemed to behave considerably different after I reset it than when I originally flashed it. I would think it is important to reset internal parameters with the any of these new flashes that alter shift parameters.

I am not sure what .ipo file you need to reset the other #'d flashes, or if in fact you even need a different one than just the original GS19. Maybe someone who has done the two newer flashes can chime in on this after trying to reset via INPA.
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Default 11-16-2013, 09:37 AM

In fact, you need the gs19d.ipo file just to establish the communication between INPA and the Trans Control Unit.
I haven't tried to flash the TCU with winkfp until I had this INPA file, because I wanted to know my actual flash ZB number.
I wasn't able to reset gearbox adaptation, because I wasn't able to open the INPA gearbox menu.

After I had this file, I was able to upload anyone of the flash included with winkfp and to reset the gearbox adaptation with INPA, which is very important after each flash.


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