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Hi Terry;

I'm new to this platform and had just received my jb4 w/ BT dongle for a 2019 Stinger GT using stock plugs / stock gap, 91 octane @ 2K ft elevation. Your replies above answered most of my questions. But I got 2 more:

1. Do I need to use/connect the OBD2 plug in order to get the maximum benefit of Map1 & 2? or is the OBD2 plug just for monitoring gauges on the phone?

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2. If I just got the jb4 (brand new), do I need to worry about any firmware updates at this time? or am I good to go as is - just plug and play?

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1) Yes tuning is much better with OBDII even on map1.
2) Firmware updates are always optional!


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Default 07-19-2019, 06:08 PM

Map 5 on 93 with octane boost - Does everything look good? Thanks for your help. 2018 Kia Stinger GT2 AWD
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Map 5 on 93 with octane boost - Does everything look good? Thanks for your help. 2018 Kia Stinger GT2 AWD
Yes looks fine to me!
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Default 07-19-2019, 07:09 PM

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1) Yes tuning is much better with OBDII even on map1.
2) Firmware updates are always optional!
Hi Terry;

Thank you for the reply. I guess I didn't ask the question right.

Will the jb4 still work in conjunction with the app if I don't attach it to the car using the OBDII cable?

Thanks.

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Default 07-19-2019, 08:07 PM

Here's a 1/4 mile style log. Roads were slightly wet so there was some wheel spin down low
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Default 07-20-2019, 09:24 AM

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Hi Terry;

Thank you for the reply. I guess I didn't ask the question right.

Will the jb4 still work in conjunction with the app if I don't attach it to the car using the OBDII cable?

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No, without OBDII JB4 reads boost only. So tuning is clunkier (like a lap3) and you can only log boost.


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Default 07-20-2019, 09:25 AM

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Here's a 1/4 mile style log. Roads were slightly wet so there was some wheel spin down low
Seems OK to me here.
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Default 07-20-2019, 09:40 AM

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Seems OK to me here.
Timings are high. Need to increase the boost!
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Default 07-20-2019, 11:40 AM

More boost is not always better. You want to find a good balance of boost and timing and reasonable power levels for the platform to keep things reliable long term. Even if the logs look good but the motor has a known weak spots (like many of these 4 bangers) best to stay a little conservative IMHO.


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Default 07-20-2019, 05:25 PM

Just wondering for some feedback on first pulls with JB4 installed if anything worth looking at or if need to do a longer log, also wondering if there's somewhere to get info on reading the data from the logs to better understand all of the data.
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Just wondering for some feedback on first pulls with JB4 installed if anything worth looking at or if need to do a longer log, also wondering if there's somewhere to get info on reading the data from the logs to better understand all of the data.
Looks good to me! We don't have a Kia specific write up on log reading but here is a generic one: Logging Parameters and their Meaning - N54Tech.com - International Turbo Racing Discussion


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Default Terry @ bms - 07-21-2019, 11:37 AM

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Looks good to me! We don't have a Kia specific write up on log reading but here is a generic one: Logging Parameters and their Meaning - N54Tech.com - International Turbo Racing Discussion
Hey Terry i was trying out the map 6 let me know what you see and is my meth kit supposed to turn on in map 6 i thought only map 8 and no i didn't change any settings to allow it to turn on in other maps and i was just using 93 with this run
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Default support for 2019 or 2020 G90 with 3.3t? - 07-21-2019, 01:12 PM

I don't see the g90 listed in the supported models, but I believe the 3.3t in the G90 is the same as the g80. The G90 comes with the 3.3 or the v8 non-turbo. I was leaning towards the v8, but if I can tune the 3.3, it will have comparable specs to the v8, but will likely have better mpg and is a lower MSRP.

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Default 07-21-2019, 04:29 PM

Hi Terry,

Just installed my JB4 today (did not hook up fuel wires yet).
I did a map0 baseline pull and two map 1 pulls. Would you mind looking them over and let me know if things are GTG?

93 octane
outside temp: 98F
regapped stock plugs (.024")

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Default 07-21-2019, 05:22 PM

Looks all normal to me!


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I don't see the g90 listed in the supported models, but I believe the 3.3t in the G90 is the same as the g80. The G90 comes with the 3.3 or the v8 non-turbo. I was leaning towards the v8, but if I can tune the 3.3, it will have comparable specs to the v8, but will likely have better mpg and is a lower MSRP.

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Yes it's compatible as far as we know, not sure if we've had many G90 customer install it yet though so can't make it official yet.


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Default 07-21-2019, 06:10 PM

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Looks good to me! We don't have a Kia specific write up on log reading but here is a generic one: Logging Parameters and their Meaning - N54Tech.com - International Turbo Racing Discussion
Hey terry did another test today on Map 2 for the first try, was only running 91 octane however, and only thing I noticed is when I let off it felt quite a hard shift, didn't log any others unfortunately anything to be concerned about (excuse the newbie-ness).

Also wondering if there is anything specific that should be done given modifications with Borla *** back + Injen CAI.

Also is there recommended what gauges to use and monitor, and what you should include in these logs for you to review?

Thanks for your help!
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Default 07-22-2019, 04:39 AM

Hey Terry finally got onto Map2. When ya have time peek at this log. Feels good even with some poor traction sometimes on launch. Reducing boost in 1st and second now. Haha.

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What is the E85 gauge telling us? Actual content of ethanol % in tank or e85 content so you have do do weird math to find trur ethanol content?

Can we get a KR gauge added?
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Default 07-22-2019, 02:27 PM

Regapped the plugs and tried Map 3 on E30. It looks good to me, and felt good.
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Hey Terry finally got onto Map2. When ya have time peek at this log. Feels good even with some poor traction sometimes on launch. Reducing boost in 1st and second now. Haha.

Also
What is the E85 gauge telling us? Actual content of ethanol % in tank or e85 content so you have do do weird math to find trur ethanol content?

Can we get a KR gauge added?

The E85 gauge is the jb4 guessing the E85 mixture. Iím not sure how this does this but it does seem to get pretty close. When I mix a 20% mix it gets close to the 20% mark and same for when I do a 30% mix.
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Default 07-22-2019, 05:22 PM

Tried map2 today for a couple pulls (first one on old firmware).

Do you see any issues?

Should I be concerned about trims getting pegged at the beginning of the first run?
Also is it normal for ign to drop to zero on each shift and spike when I let off?
Am I risking damage to my car running regapped stock plugs instead of densos?
(sorry for the newb questions, I'm new to this)?


Thanks!
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Default 07-22-2019, 07:23 PM

Terry, your thoughts on running 110 leaded race fuel? Ran about a 50/50 blend with 91 and the car runs fantastic on map 7! No stuttering like it had especially on maps lower. I know on older naturally aspirated cars the lead was good for the valve train and other components but as for a fuel injected turbo car idk??
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Default 07-22-2019, 07:37 PM

Loaded fuel eats up o2 sensors, avoid it.


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Default 07-22-2019, 07:38 PM

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Tried map2 today for a couple pulls (first one on old firmware).

Do you see any issues?

Should I be concerned about trims getting pegged at the beginning of the first run?
Also is it normal for ign to drop to zero on each shift and spike when I let off?
Am I risking damage to my car running regapped stock plugs instead of densos?
(sorry for the newb questions, I'm new to this)?


Thanks!
Yes looks all normal to me here. On the plugs if it's not misfiring it's fine. We've had customers run regapped factory plugs up to map5. Your mileage may vary, but map2 should be fine.


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