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Default 05-01-2019, 04:06 AM

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Getting closer on that. If you're bored and have time to help test something drop me an email.
I would be interested to test something for the 2L as well.
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Default 05-01-2019, 05:16 AM

when i can help for 2L engine from I30N or Veloster let me know it!
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Default 05-02-2019, 04:58 PM

I think the E85 section is off. I am only on 93 on this launch and it is reading high. Plus side though i am pulling off the line around 11psi now
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Default 05-02-2019, 06:44 PM

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I think the E85 section is off. I am only on 93 on this launch and it is reading high. Plus side though i am pulling off the line around 11psi now
Turn off the E85 WMI option you turned on.


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Default 05-03-2019, 05:54 AM

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Turn off the E85 WMI option you turned on.
How do i disable it? I haven't messed with anything in the water meth section.


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Default 05-03-2019, 07:49 AM

It's on the WMI page.


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Default 05-03-2019, 08:36 AM

v9

1) Changes to logging for 2L models. Water temp, road speed, and fuel pressure are now active.
2) Enabled WMI PWM control for those running large nozzles that need less flow at lower RPM.


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Default 05-03-2019, 08:49 AM

I take it no updates on the 'current gear' PID? Also, do you have a rough curve of boost increase by RPM on map 3 / 5? I'm looking to create a customized map 6 instead of using map 3 + boost by gear since it's a little weird when launching in 2nd gear.
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Default 05-03-2019, 09:52 AM

No gear logging yet, although we're internally calculating it. So may revert to that option down the road if we can't find it. Just look at target on your map3 and map5 logs.


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Default 05-03-2019, 10:00 AM

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2) Enabled WMI PWM control for those running large nozzles that need less flow at lower RPM.
Does this WMI PWM control allow variable/progressive settings for systems that do not already have a progressive controller but have a binary controller instead?

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Just look at target on your map3 and map5 logs.
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Does map 6 allow for decimals on the user adjustment page or do I have to use whole numbers? I still want it to taper to 5psi up top, but wondering if I can fine tune 2psi vs 1.5psi down low
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Decimals.


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Default 05-03-2019, 12:42 PM

Terry,

Haven't been on here in a while, so could've just missed it. Did you ever end up putting it back on the dyno with E30 + WMI? Just curious if you saw any difference over 93octane + WMI (I saw those charts)?

Will be at a Cars and Coffee this weekend, and I know I'll get question! I saw you were faster in the 1/2 mile, but didn't know if you had any idea what whp or torque you might be at. I'm running the same setup.
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Default 05-03-2019, 01:44 PM

I did and I think we hit a best of 475whp at some point but the curve wasn't really stable, so the offical word is power is around the same as 93 + WMI. But, it might be more stable going down the track and during back to back runs with the E30 mix helping boost octane.


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Default 05-03-2019, 08:13 PM

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Assume this will be the HPFP reading?
Confirmed this is indeed high pressure, units are in MPa (fixed after reviewing units conversion below). Max. seen is 15 (2175 PSI), same as on the first gen VT.

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I noticed that the IAT reading displayed in the Windows app appears to be correct, but when I add that PID to be logged, the graphed IAT value is nowhere near correct (value is numerically far lower).
Figured this out and also for ECT (water temp); the decimal needs to be moved one place to the right in order to display correctly in the graph.

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Default 05-03-2019, 08:26 PM

Each unit is around 150psi on high fuel pressure.


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Default 05-03-2019, 09:57 PM

On the VT1 (1.6L T-GDI G4FJ engine), the HPFP is a 200-BAR (2900 PSI) unit that they cap at 150-BAR (2175 PSI). Another pressure unit used by that ECM is kPa (1 BAR = 100 kPa). See attached pic below for an example from a VT1 log.

So if each unit = 150 PSI, I’m seeing 15 units max., which would be 2250 PSI, fairly close. It seems these units are actually MPa (1 MPa = 10 BAR = 145 PSI). Thanks for the clarification.

Request to add ambient air temperature PID so ambient vs. intake temps can be monitored and graphed for direct comparison, please.
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Default 05-05-2019, 01:12 AM

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v9

1) Changes to logging for 2L models. Water temp, road speed, and fuel pressure are now active.
2) Enabled WMI PWM control for those running large nozzles that need less flow at lower RPM.
That was exactly one of my concerns about the WMI kit being all or nothing. Thank you for addressing it!

I just did the update and I was wondering...
Is there something to set for the PWM control?
Can it be fine tuned and does it work on Map 8?

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Default 05-05-2019, 08:57 AM

For the WMI PWM control you enable it on the WMI page, then fuel bias on the user adjustment page becomes the maximum duty to the WMI pump at that RPM, so you have some user adjustment over it. But you'd generally only use that if you're nozzle is so large you need to reduce flow at the expense of attomization.


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For the WMI PWM control you enable it on the WMI page, then fuel bias on the user adjustment page becomes the maximum duty to the WMI pump at that RPM, so you have some user adjustment over it. But you'd generally only use that if you're nozzle is so large you need to reduce flow at the expense of attomization.
What is the unit? is it a percentage 0-100?
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So if each unit = 150 PSI, I’m seeing 15 units max., which would be 2250 PSI, fairly close. It seems these units are actually MPa (1 MPa = 10 BAR = 145 PSI). Thanks for the clarification.
Yes it was originally MPa but no one knows what that is in the USA. The main thing on fuel pressure, is to look for relative sharp drops. When you start to run low on volume MPa will drop below 8.


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Default 05-06-2019, 01:38 PM

Got in production batches of a couple new products today which we should have on our site tomorrow.

Plug play WMI bracket which provides a clean way to mount a 1g tank and pump in the spare tire area.

BMS diff brace which takes a lot of slop out of the rear end improving traction both off the line and around corners.

More info to follow!
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Looking forward to the Rear Diff Brace. I am also looking forward to buying the WMI kit too, and happy to see some more options available for mounting the tanks.
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