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Default 550i N63, Pure Stg1 Turbos, 640whp 680wtq - 11-19-2016, 06:48 PM

Hey guys,

We set a new N63 power record today with a 2011 550i. Power curve looks great, and power level is impressive for 91 oct + meth.
It may even get close to 700whp with race gas next time around! Overall very impressive considering these V8 twin turbo cars
can be bought for less than $25k! That's a lot of car for the money.

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-N63 PURE Stg1 Turbo Upgrade
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Default 11-19-2016, 08:01 PM

A few questions.
1. What MAF housings and intakes are those?
2. Is that car AWD? That would make it more special.
3. 6 speed or 8 speed?

One more.
4. Is this even possible with a TU until Terry makes a JB4 for it? I can't imagine owning another BMW out of warranty after what the last one cost me, and all the F10 LCIs that are covered have the N63N.


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Default 11-20-2016, 03:25 AM

Impressive


What are the inherent limitations/problems with the N63 powertrain?


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Default 11-20-2016, 06:31 AM

Very impressive for 91 and meth.


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Default 12-14-2017, 12:15 AM

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A few questions.
1. What MAF housings and intakes are those?
2. Is that car AWD? That would make it more special.
3. 6 speed or 8 speed?

One more.
4. Is this even possible with a TU until Terry makes a JB4 for it? I can't imagine owning another BMW out of warranty after what the last one cost me, and all the F10 LCIs that are covered have the N63N.
Exactly my thoughts Mike. I like how no one addressed your questions. /s
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Default 12-14-2017, 10:08 AM

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Exactly my thoughts Mike. I like how no one addressed your questions. /s
1. What MAF housings and intakes are those?
No idea.

2. Is that car AWD? That would make it more special.
It's not, as you can see it on a 2wd dyno in the pic in post #1.

3. 6 speed or 8 speed?
8 spd

4. Is this even possible with a TU until Terry makes a JB4 for it? I can't imagine owning another BMW out of warranty after what the last one cost me, and all the F10 LCIs that are covered have the N63N.
Yes it's more possible with a TU. The JB4 has even better tuning capabilities with the newer TU engines.
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Default 12-14-2017, 10:10 AM

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1. What MAF housings and intakes are those?
No idea.

2. Is that car AWD? That would make it more special.
It's not, as you can see it on a 2wd dyno in the pic in post #1.

3. 6 speed or 8 speed?
8 spd

4. Is this even possible with a TU until Terry makes a JB4 for it? I can't imagine owning another BMW out of warranty after what the last one cost me, and all the F10 LCIs that are covered have the N63N.
Yes it's more possible with a TU. The JB4 has even better tuning capabilities with the newer TU engines.
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Default 11-20-2016, 09:36 AM

Friggen beast!


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Default 11-20-2016, 09:57 AM

great result!


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Default 11-20-2016, 11:15 PM

which gear was this Dyno conducted?
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Default 11-21-2016, 09:11 AM

This customer's car is an 8spd auto. Dyno pulls done in 4th and 5th.
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Default 11-21-2016, 09:32 AM

This would be crazy with xdrive. Wonder if it could hold up to this power level. I imagine the power is hard to put down with a non-M 5er.
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Default 11-21-2016, 10:02 AM

The new 3.5bar support for the N63 is working nicely for these.


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Default 11-21-2016, 10:56 AM

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The new 3.5bar support for the N63 is working nicely for these.

Terry and Steve, l am getting jealous here, I cant wait to make it home for 3.5 BAR firmware flash with big Alpinas and match some big numbers.
Thanks again for writing the code. you guys are awesome

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Default 11-21-2016, 12:34 PM

[QUOTE=Mike_L;508505]A few questions.
1. What MAF housings and intakes are those?
https://n63intake.com/product/n63n63...ld-air-intake/


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The new 3.5bar support for the N63 is working nicely for these.
dude now i have to buy another 550!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Default 11-21-2016, 01:53 PM

Damn, imagine with 93 octane and a small mix of e85
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Default 11-21-2016, 03:07 PM

Sweet, I'd love to do this to a 5er wagon.
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Default 11-22-2016, 07:46 AM

What kind of power can the 550's 8 speed trans handle before it starts to become a issue?
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Default 11-22-2016, 11:46 AM

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What kind of power can the 550's 8 speed trans handle before it starts to become a issue?
Well hopefully it's a ZF 8HP70...
http://www.autoblog.com/2010/09/24/2.../#slide-273077

Wikipedia says 700NM or 516ftlbs
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZF_8HP_transmission

I'm sure an additional transmission cooler would help bump that up a little...but if I was going to go record hunting I would get something like this.....

The Southern Hotrod War Viking Transmission (1000hp)
http://www.southernhotrod.com/product-p/shr-21040.htm

Fortunately the 8hp70 is used readily by other manufacturers and tuners have already started modifying them for big power. SHR is just one of a few different transmission builders.
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Default 11-22-2016, 01:14 PM

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Well hopefully it's a ZF 8HP70...
http://www.autoblog.com/2010/09/24/2.../#slide-273077

Wikipedia says 700NM or 516ftlbs
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZF_8HP_transmission
According to the ETK its an 8HP70Z.


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Default 11-23-2016, 09:03 PM

The Getrag DCT in the M5 is rated at 750nM or 550 ft lbs but it seems that each trans is modified for each specific application so maybe they are beefed up somewhat. Certainly the DCT doesn't like boost over 22 so is clearly over its design limits at that point.

Presumably similar thinking would apply to the zf 8 speed but who knows.

How much boost is the Pure 550 pushing for these dyno numbers?
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Default 11-23-2016, 10:51 PM

The 8HP70 can only take so much. The 8HP90 is the big dog for the Hellcats and Bentleys with massive torque.


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Default 11-24-2016, 08:10 AM

Hellcat dyno shows 579 lb ft at 4200 rpm wtq on dynojet done by kennebell.
So...we are 100 over that! Yikes!
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Default 11-28-2016, 12:43 PM

@PureTurbos

Can you please tell us the differences between the data above in the original post versus this build....

V8TT + PURE = WIN 760whp & 816ft/lbs
https://www.instagram.com/p/7_rh5WSLY2/

The difference is more than can be explained with different dynos or different conditions...120whp difference? Was the 760whp run using race gas and meth? Was it using stage 2 turbos?
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