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Default 05-01-2019, 08:17 PM

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I donít understand this. Are you flashing a BEF on top of BM3? How is this possible - both of these are flash tunes. The BEF will overwrite the BM3 tune. Or am I missing something about how BM3 works?
JB4 bef is 12.3 version
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Default 05-03-2019, 08:33 AM

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JB4 bef is 12.3 version
Yeah, I don't understand either. Are you using the MHD BEF with the BM3 ots tune?



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Default 05-03-2019, 08:58 AM

Hello,

is the map MHD I can not find anything, thank you
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Default 05-03-2019, 10:47 AM

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JB4 bef is 12.3 version
Not sure what you are asking. JB4 v12.3 if PWG N55 firmware, not B58 engine firmware.


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Default 05-03-2019, 01:45 PM

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Yeah, I don't understand either. Are you using the MHD BEF with the BM3 ots tune?

could be using jb4 too add boost ontop of the bm3 tune

or hes using bm3 ots tune and jb4 as a methcontroller
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Default 05-03-2019, 02:04 PM

Hit the dyno today with our 540i development car to test out our new B58 JB4 MHD E85 back end flash map. Test car is a 2017 model all stock with BMS intake, JB4, and our off the shelf v1 E85 back end flash map. Fuel mixture was around 40% E85 and the rest 91 octane.

Testing out a new version of JB4 map3 which targets around 20psi peak but is set to purposely under target a psi or two, peak boost on the dyno run was 19psi. Played around a bit with timing but found we're pretty close to MBT here.

The real limiting factor for us is fuel pressure so we ran it as lean as we feel safe letting it run on the E85 mixture, and even so fuel pressure was starting to tank as you can see in the log. Fortunately Fuel-IT has a CPI kit in the works so options to take it beyond this will not only be limited to WMI. Although, WMI does wonders.

Anyway first of many more higher power B58 dynos to come!
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Default 05-03-2019, 03:29 PM

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Hit the dyno today with our 540i development car to test out our new B58 JB4 MHD E85 back end flash map. Test car is a 2017 model all stock with BMS intake, JB4, and our off the shelf v1 E85 back end flash map. Fuel mixture was around 40% E85 and the rest 91 octane.

Testing out a new version of JB4 map3 which targets around 20psi peak but is set to purposely under target a psi or two, peak boost on the dyno run was 19psi. Played around a bit with timing but found we're pretty close to MBT here.

The real limiting factor for us is fuel pressure so we ran it as lean as we feel safe letting it run on the E85 mixture, and even so fuel pressure was starting to tank as you can see in the log. Fortunately Fuel-IT has a CPI kit in the works so options to take it beyond this will not only be limited to WMI. Although, WMI does wonders.

Anyway first of many more higher power B58 dynos to come!
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Default 05-03-2019, 03:59 PM

Where do I find the Pump, Race, and ethanol back-end flash maps to use with MHD and Jb4 on my B58?
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Email only right now, per directions in the first post.


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Email only right now, per directions in the first post.
Ah, Got it. emailing now.
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Default 05-03-2019, 04:41 PM

So as of today. Do we still use the mhd beta link for jb4 BEF?
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Great numbers!!! ������������������������
I saw some tuners running straight e85 in B58 engines, probably with less boost, do you think It’s question of time to improve the HPFP menegement or the most recently models of b58 has better HPFP? Thank you and keep the great job!


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Default 05-03-2019, 05:00 PM

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could be using jb4 too add boost ontop of the bm3 tune

or hes using bm3 ots tune and jb4 as a methcontroller
I think heís calling the JB4 firmware the ďBEFĒ. So what heís got is JB4 + BM3 so youíre right. Actually those are good times and itís clear the JB4 stacked on the BM3 improves his times. Although map3 or map6 wouldnít just be a meth control setup as those maps do more than just control boost.


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So as of today. Do we still use the mhd beta link for jb4 BEF?
Use the new public app on google play. MHD f and g series v 1.20.


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Default 05-03-2019, 05:23 PM

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Great numbers!!! ������������������������
I saw some tuners running straight e85 in B58 engines, probably with less boost, do you think Itís question of time to improve the HPFP menegement or the most recently models of b58 has better HPFP? Thank you and keep the great job!
Boost would need to be much lower, so you'd make less power. E40 was the best balance between boost and timing/octane we could find.


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Default 05-03-2019, 05:26 PM

Terry pls 93oct and WMI 100% meth


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Default 05-03-2019, 06:56 PM

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Boost would need to be much lower, so you'd make less power. E40 was the best balance between boost and timing/octane we could find.
Cool. So for your latest beta BEF for ethanol and WMI, should we run an E40 blend?


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Use the new public app on google play. MHD f and g series v 1.20.
Awesome! And do I still need to email for maps ? Or are they available during flashing ?
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Awesome! And do I still need to email for maps ? Or are they available during flashing ?
BEF maps are BMS produced so email in. You then use mhdís app to flash it.


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Great numbers!

Is the fuel pump already the limiting factor on 93 with **’s? Do the turbo’s have more in them?

I an running jb4 map 6 around 15-15.5psi with Bms intake on 93 octane. I read that most flashes are around 16psi, Will there be Any noticable power increase going BEF + jb4?
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Great numbers!

Is the fuel pump already the limiting factor on 93 with **ís? Do the turboís have more in them?

I an running jb4 map 6 around 15-15.5psi with Bms intake on 93 octane. I read that most flashes are around 16psi, Will there be Any noticable power increase going BEF + jb4?
I donít know where you saw that but plenty of people are running flashes and pushing more psi. Fuel pump is a limit only if you seek to max the stock turbo ( around 21 psi). People are putting down great numbers as you saw.


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We hope to post the base BEF maps here next week to avoid the email in for them delay. Also working on v13 of the B58 JB4 firmware with some enhancements to the JB4 safety systems and revised map targets for use with the flash maps.


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Great numbers!

Is the fuel pump already the limiting factor on 93 with **ís? Do the turboís have more in them?

I an running jb4 map 6 around 15-15.5psi with Bms intake on 93 octane. I read that most flashes are around 16psi, Will there be Any noticable power increase going BEF + jb4?
The BEF gives us more control over timing advance and fueling, so even at the same boost levels, we should see some improvements. But the basic idea is with our BEF you'll be able to safely run more boost for a given octane.


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Default 05-04-2019, 11:12 AM

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The BEF gives us more control over timing advance and fueling, so even at the same boost levels, we should see some improvements. But the basic idea is with our BEF you'll be able to safely run more boost for a given octane.
are there any results from wmi?
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Soon Once everything is finalized


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