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Default 04-19-2019, 03:29 PM

Finally about to re-install my JB4 w/fuel wires.

Use the v8 firmware?

What are the recommended boost adjustments for AWD in 1st & 2nd gears?

Map 3 on 93 Octane?

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Default 04-19-2019, 03:42 PM

Disable boost by gear in AWD models, V8 firmware, and map3 should be fine for good name brand 93.


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Default 04-19-2019, 04:08 PM

Thanks! So no AWDs are experiencing wheelspin at start/launch?
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Default 04-19-2019, 05:20 PM

Not that I know of, at least not to the degree you'd want to detune torque off the line for it.


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Default 04-19-2019, 05:30 PM

Thanks again! And thanks to Jeff T. on your website's chat for helping me!
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We're happy to help!


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Default 04-20-2019, 05:16 AM

No matter what I’ve tried...I cannot break the wheels free. AWD launches like crap. Oh well.

5 mph and onwards...it’s a rocket.


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Default 04-20-2019, 06:54 AM

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No matter what Iíve tried...I cannot break the wheels free. AWD launches like crap. Oh well.

5 mph and onwards...itís a rocket.
Wanna turn your AWD off?


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Default 04-20-2019, 04:32 PM

Hi Terry, happy Easter! Could you take a look at this log. Mods are SSR midpipes and JB4. First time with a full pass on map 3, Full tank 91 octane to 3 gallons of E 85. 12.78 at 112.07 with a density altitude of 5735 ft.... Corrected to sea level, this is knocking on the door of 11's... Any suggestions for my next move?
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Default 04-20-2019, 08:19 PM

Looks solid to me! Next time run v8 so we can see timing cyl 2-6. Impressive time for the elevation. Might be worth trying short shifting around 5500rpm just to see if it makes any difference given the thinner air.
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Default 04-20-2019, 09:29 PM

Sounds good, Terry. Thanks. I'll make sure and do the v8 firmware soon. Worth a try with the short shifting, I'll give that a shot too m Y'all are very much appreciated!! Awesome support!
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Default 04-21-2019, 12:41 AM

Hey all - first post with the new car / new toys - I've got one of the six speed manual trans G70 2.0T's, and have started upgrades already.

JB4 has been on it for a few days now - log attached from Map 1 with pump 91, with stock plugs gapped down and a basic intake I put together out of some 4" carbon tubing and a stray K&N that was laying around. Also disconnected and capped the BOV recirc line to keep IAT's a bit lower too (and yes, more noise). Pulls much more linearly to redline now (nice tuning work via the fuel wire, Terry!), still need more kick though - chassis is too good. Let me know what you think on the log - cylinder-to-cylinder timing variation looks a little wide vs. some of the others I've seen, I definitely don't love our pump gas.

So, on that note, I finished the install on the WMI kit today as well - one plus of the underpowered 2.0T is that there's more room under the hood, so I mounted all of the main parts (and an old AEM 1 gallon reservoir) up on the driver's side where the second airbox normally sits on the 3.3TT. Came out well - the kit nozzle mount / MAP block fits / clears on the 2.0T nicely. Pics below - any questions, please let me know.

I could use some advice on starting points for the WMI settings specific to the 2.0T (and 6MT if there may be any "complications" vs the 8AT) - nozzle is the standard kit #10 currently, expecting that'll be a bit much for the 2.0T with a moderate boost additive to start with. Colder HKS plugs will be going in @ 0.026" once they get here, then the spraying will start.

This is technically the wife's daily, and it's a shared track / AX car for us - planning to see how far we can push it and still maintain the handling balance.

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Hey all - first post with the new car / new toys - I've got one of the six speed manual trans G70 2.0T's, and have started upgrades already.

JB4 has been on it for a few days now - log attached from Map 1 with pump 91, with stock plugs gapped down and a basic intake I put together out of some 4" carbon tubing and a stray K&N that was laying around. Also disconnected and capped the BOV recirc line to keep IAT's a bit lower too (and yes, more noise). Pulls much more linearly to redline now (nice tuning work via the fuel wire, Terry!), still need more kick though - chassis is too good. Let me know what you think on the log - cylinder-to-cylinder timing variation looks a little wide vs. some of the others I've seen, I definitely don't love our pump gas.

So, on that note, I finished the install on the WMI kit today as well - one plus of the underpowered 2.0T is that there's more room under the hood, so I mounted all of the main parts (and an old AEM 1 gallon reservoir) up on the driver's side where the second airbox normally sits on the 3.3TT. Came out well - the kit nozzle mount / MAP block fits / clears on the 2.0T nicely. Pics below - any questions, please let me know.

I could use some advice on starting points for the WMI settings specific to the 2.0T (and 6MT if there may be any "complications" vs the 8AT) - nozzle is the standard kit #10 currently, expecting that'll be a bit much for the 2.0T with a moderate boost additive to start with. Colder HKS plugs will be going in @ 0.026" once they get here, then the spraying will start.

This is technically the wife's daily, and it's a shared track / AX car for us - planning to see how far we can push it and still maintain the handling balance.

Thanks in advance!
Nice job. Care to share a pic of where the fuel wires go on the 2.0t?
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Default 04-21-2019, 09:35 AM

Normally pump has to be located below the fluid level for it to feed properly, and if the pump gets too hot, it can vapor lock. This setup may not work well.

But it's already installed so I guess test it out. For a 2L normally we'd suggest a BM7 nozzle. The JB4 WMI settings for the 2L are the same as for the 3.3L!


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Default 04-21-2019, 11:07 AM

2.0T fuel wire tap on the G70 below - copied the pin location (#2, white wire on the sensor side of the connector) from the Veloster N guys, it's a different color on this harness / sensor.
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Normally pump has to be located below the fluid level for it to feed properly, and if the pump gets too hot, it can vapor lock. This setup may not work well.

But it's already installed so I guess test it out. For a 2L normally we'd suggest a BM7 nozzle. The JB4 WMI settings for the 2L are the same as for the 3.3L!
Thanks, Terry. Was concerned about priming, too, but it took all of about two seconds to fully prime and purge during setup. Checked flow out of the nozzle with it installed in the adapter too - good and no leaks. Really like the adapter - beats having to pipe tap the tube.

Set for Map 8, 0 boost add, 90 scaling, 8 PSI minimum, all else as defaults - will run it like this until the better plugs are in. (Edit - and I'll get a #7 nozzle on order)

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2.0T fuel wire tap on the G70 below - copied the pin location (#2, white wire on the sensor side of the connector) from the Veloster N guys, it's a different color on this harness / sensor.
Thanks for the image. Too bad there is no sleeve like the 3.3t to hide the puncture once taken off to go to the dealership.
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Thanks for the image. Too bad there is no sleeve like the 3.3t to hide the puncture once taken off to go to the dealership.
There is - I pulled it back in the pictures. Pretty nice high-temp silicone-feeling sleeve with some fabric in it.
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There is - I pulled it back in the pictures. Pretty nice high-temp silicone-feeling sleeve with some fabric in it.
Good to know. Also can't quite tell from the pic but is that towards the back of the engine?
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Can you take a look at this graph? I added a ******** and a jt intercooler. First time stepping on it the turbos cut off making no boost.
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Good to know. Also can't quite tell from the pic but is that towards the back of the engine?
Yes - very back, that's the firewall behind it. The connector slides / snaps into a mounting bracket that lives on the back of the valvecover - I pushed the assembly towards the firewall to pop it out of the bracket, then unclipped the connector to free it up enough for the tap.
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Default 04-22-2019, 03:05 PM

Is this the right setting for when you install the fuel wires?
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Terry, got it fixed. Thank you for looking though.
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Hi Terry, can you please take a look at the log?
G70 2.0T Automatic. No fuel wires yet.
I don't seem to feel much of a difference in acceleration so I'm not sure if I need to manually set anything since it is the 2.0T instead of the 3.3T.
Let me know if there is anything else I can try!
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Default 04-22-2019, 09:11 PM

Looks like wheel spin or something in the log? Traction control off?


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