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Default 09-01-2019, 06:21 AM

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I wanted nozzles with filters, as one of my BM5 nozzles was completely blocked. Strange since theres a filter connected to the solenoid. Regardless..just protecting my engine with the ProMeth nozzles. The bonus was a much finer mist compared to the BM5s.
Finer mist - sounds good - what has your butt dyno and logs said about the switch in nozzles ?


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Default 09-03-2019, 09:50 AM

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I wanted nozzles with filters, as one of my BM5 nozzles was completely blocked. Strange since theres a filter connected to the solenoid. Regardless..just protecting my engine with the ProMeth nozzles. The bonus was a much finer mist compared to the BM5s.
Usually a lower flow rate because of that. Finer mist = less flow volume.


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Default 09-04-2019, 05:57 AM

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Usually a lower flow rate because of that. Finer mist = less flow volume.
I would have thought that, but both are rated at 5gph.


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Default 09-10-2019, 08:47 AM

Bump - just got my PM7’s - I’ll install them and compare - Q50Philly - How have your results been?


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Default 09-10-2019, 04:42 PM

Installed the PM7s - the BM7s still look brand new. Quick log share attached. Need to do a real pull but honestly I do not feel a difference with the butt dyno.
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Default 09-11-2019, 06:00 AM

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Installed the PM7s - the BM7s still look brand new. Quick log share attached. Need to do a real pull but honestly I do not feel a difference with the butt dyno.
Looks very reasonable.


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Default 09-11-2019, 02:08 PM

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Installed the PM7s - the BM7s still look brand new. Quick log share attached. Need to do a real pull but honestly I do not feel a difference with the butt dyno.
I'd expect trims to be a little lower under WMI flow.. Sure it's flowing properly? Do a test purge to ensure a clean spray out of the nozzles?


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Default 09-11-2019, 02:24 PM

Ok - I’ll pull the nozzles and do a purge into a measured container, record each bank, and post the results.


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Default 09-12-2019, 06:30 PM

Sounds like a plan


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Default 09-14-2019, 06:38 AM

Latest log on map 8 for me. Hot down here so limiting the boost.
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Default 09-20-2019, 11:35 AM

Log from an on-ramp run: 96 / 52% humidity day in NTX & an E20ish fuel blend. Still looking for time to pull the nozzles and measure bank1 & bank2 output.
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Default 09-20-2019, 02:23 PM

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Bump - just got my PM7’s - I’ll install them and compare - Q50Philly - How have your results been?
Really happy with the PM5’s...butt Dyno better! Just today, I added E85 @ 30% to 93...for the first time. WMI+E30 = OMG! I might consider PM6 or 7, but happy for now.


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Default 09-20-2019, 03:18 PM

Just pulled the PM7s and swapped with PM8s - measured each bank with 5 Priming cycles. Measures @ 50ml on each bank.


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Default 09-20-2019, 03:25 PM

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Just pulled the PM7s and swapped with PM8s - measured each bank with 5 Priming cycles. Measures @ 50ml on each bank.
Be careful of Quenching...common with too much flow. Had someone tell me to widen gap on plugs to avoid...haven’t done that yet!


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Default 09-20-2019, 04:14 PM

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Really happy with the PM5s...butt Dyno better! Just today, I added E85 @ 30% to 93...for the first time. WMI+E30 = OMG! I might consider PM6 or 7, but happy for now.
Welcome to the WMI + E30 = OMG club! Im running a bit lighter E-Blend (@E20) in an attempt to drop my trim numbers. The PM8s and a E20ish blend moments ago yielded the attached log for comments. For the first time I am seeing trim numbers in the 30s vs 40s so the added Meth flow of the PM8s and slightly lower E content combo seem to be working towards that goal.

On a related question - with the Fuel Wires enabled - is the AFR goal mid 12s? Here is my ignorance showing - on a FI engine, is a richer AFR (11s) safer than mid/low 12s? What are the trade offs?

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Default 09-27-2019, 09:25 AM

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Welcome to the WMI + E30 = OMG club! Im running a bit lighter E-Blend (@E20) in an attempt to drop my trim numbers. The PM8s and a E20ish blend moments ago yielded the attached log for comments. For the first time I am seeing trim numbers in the 30s vs 40s so the added Meth flow of the PM8s and slightly lower E content combo seem to be working towards that goal.

On a related question - with the Fuel Wires enabled - is the AFR goal mid 12s? Here is my ignorance showing - on a FI engine, is a richer AFR (11s) safer than mid/low 12s? What are the trade offs?

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Default 09-27-2019, 01:37 PM

With the BM5’s and an E30’ish fuel blend I was maxing out the fuel trims. When I upgraded to the BM7’s and kept the same fuel blend fuel trims were occasionally maxed out and AFR numbers started to land in the mid 12’s at WOT more consistently. I saw very similar logs when I swapped the BM7’s for PM7’s (while the spray pattern is different I’m not sure it made any real difference?!?) The upgrade to the PM8’s have resulted in fuel trims rarely maxing out and AFR numbers in the low to mid 12’s.

I do have plans to take the car back to Jotech for a fall weather dyno run to see how it compares. I have also added the AMS HX Aux tank and the FI Res CBE since that last dyno in early/mid NTX summer weather; so it will not be an apples to apples comparison - but will be interesting nonetheless!

The car definitely drives like a mad man with all three changes and I remain very happy with the BMS WMI investment!!
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Default 09-29-2019, 03:27 PM

If you're afraid of too much meth content or quenching the spark you reduce the plug gap not enlarge it. As far as AFR, on traditional port fuel injection, usually you would target low 11's when boosting 93 octane. With direct fuel injection, generally you're looking for low 12's.


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Default 09-29-2019, 03:39 PM

Many thanks for the follow up on AFR. Looks like my logs show that goal has been accomplished.
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Default 09-29-2019, 05:54 PM

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Many thanks for the follow up on AFR. Looks like my logs show that goal has been accomplished.
AFR looks fine in the log to me.


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Default 09-30-2019, 06:23 AM

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If you're afraid of too much meth content or quenching the spark you reduce the plug gap not enlarge it. As far as AFR, on traditional port fuel injection, usually you would target low 11's when boosting 93 octane. With direct fuel injection, generally you're looking for low 12's.
ddnspider - thanks for the clarification on the plug gap reduction to minimize quenching. You’ve been one of the most responsive and helpful members! You’d have my vote to join the BMS Team as a virtual employee/consultant...keep up the great work!!


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ddnspider - thanks for the clarification on the plug gap reduction to minimize quenching. Youve been one of the most responsive and helpful members! Youd have my vote to join the BMS Team as a virtual employee/consultant...keep up the great work!!
Haha, thanks for the kind words man. Appreciate it. Glad to see others are enjoying the BMS WMI and trying stuff out.


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Default 10-06-2019, 09:08 AM

Have any of you gone to the track? I have spent 2 full months every Friday trying to lower my times. No matter what settings I put the wmi on my fuel trims are maxed and am .3sec slower than map 6 with 6psi.
And yes the pump and solenoid was working as I had indication lights on both to ensure proper function.
I am also a Aerospace Engineer so am very familiar with Hydo/electro mechanics.
I do believe that the benefits of this kit interns of how it keeps detonation from occurring and keeping temps down is very good, just don't expect any real gains where it matters.... the track.
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Default 10-06-2019, 09:57 AM

If you are running 93 (E10) fuel with BM5 nozzles and still maxing out your trims, what do your AFR and timing numbers look like? Moving to BM7’s made a difference on pump 93 but as I tend to run E20’ish blends I too was maxing out trims and my AFR #’s were in the high 12’s. Moving to PM8 nozzles has lowered my trim and AFR numbers while I have seen my ign numbers slightly rise. Maybe worth a try?


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Default 10-06-2019, 01:07 PM

Should be able to compare boost and ign numbers pretty easily. And even if it's the same ET or slightly slower, it's being done safer. What's the boost additive on 8 set to?


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