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Default 12-10-2019, 02:23 AM

Basically all I did was switch the green and yellow fittings around.

The yellow is now the one on the bottom of my upper hose.
That eliminates the line running across the engine.
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Default 12-10-2019, 08:12 AM

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Basically all I did was switch the green and yellow fittings around.

The yellow is now the one on the bottom of my upper hose.
That eliminates the line running across the engine.
I'm not following you for some reason, that doesn't seem like it would work and would leave no hose running to the thermostat? I'm going off this diagram from RealOEM,



The hose you're saying you connected to the bottom of the upper rad hose has nothing to do with the hose that runs across the front? Sorry I'm pretty confused lol
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Default 12-10-2019, 09:38 AM

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I'm not following you for some reason, that doesn't seem like it would work and would leave no hose running to the thermostat? I'm going off this diagram from RealOEM,



The hose you're saying you connected to the bottom of the upper rad hose has nothing to do with the hose that runs across the front? Sorry I'm pretty confused lol
Yeah iminhell1 either 90 works :-). nissubaru I am not sure how your are confused. You are deleting the extra line you ran near the belt by doing this.



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Default 12-10-2019, 10:00 AM

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Yeah iminhell1 either 90 works :-). nissubaru I am not sure how your are confused. You are deleting the extra line you ran near the belt by doing this.
I'm not sure how you guys aren't confused. I'm more than capable of understanding this but I don't think anyone is being clear enough in their answer.

I mocked up the diagram again

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Basically all I did was switch the green and yellow fittings around.

The yellow is now the one on the bottom of my upper hose.
That eliminates the line running across the engine.




So my understanding is now the green connector goes straight to the thermostat. I don't understand how/why putting a T into the upper rad hose makes any sense? What about the fluid that should go back to the overflow tank? Mine is set up like in the diagram with the green line being the new hose I've added that runs across the belt.

Again, I don't have an automatic transmission so I'm not quite following this setup. Are you sure it's the same for a manual transmission?
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Default 12-10-2019, 11:01 AM

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I'm not sure how you guys aren't confused. I'm more than capable of understanding this but I don't think anyone is being clear enough in their answer.

I mocked up the diagram again







So my understanding is now the green connector goes straight to the thermostat. I don't understand how/why putting a T into the upper rad hose makes any sense? What about the fluid that should go back to the overflow tank? Mine is set up like in the diagram with the green line being the new hose I've added that runs across the belt.

Again, I don't have an automatic transmission so I'm not quite following this setup. Are you sure it's the same for a manual transmission?
We are not confused cause we did it and have been clear on how to do it lol. Your first diagram is right , you take the 90 and get rid of the Y, second diagram is no longer relevant as you have now deleted that line in in the first diagram. You are now going to tap your coolant tank on the driver side heater line that goes from the cabin to the lower part of the elbow connecting the radiator to the engine. THis can be done by manually splicing a Y into the line OR buying a BMW 1M verision of this pipe that already has the Y to accommodate the OEM 1M aux water cooler. I honestly dont know how else to explain this...



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Default 12-10-2019, 11:07 AM

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We are not confused cause we did it and have been clear on how to do it lol. Your first diagram is right , you take the 90 and get rid of the Y, second diagram is no longer relevant as you have now deleted that line in in the first diagram. You are now going to tap your coolant tank on the driver side heater line that goes from the cabin to the lower part of the elbow connecting the radiator to the engine. THis can be done by manually splicing a Y into the line OR buying a BMW 1M verision of this pipe that already has the Y to accommodate the OEM 1M aux water cooler. I honestly dont know how else to explain this...
Got a part # on the 1M version of the pipe? I swear its the same one I already have.
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Default 12-10-2019, 11:13 AM

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Got a part # on the 1M version of the pipe? I swear its the same one I already have.
I dont know it but its the long vertical pipe with Y in the middle of this picture, its OEM on the BMW 1M and also comes with the PPK upgrade kit for the second radiator. Maybe try REALOEM.




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Default 12-10-2019, 12:45 PM

Green goes to coolant bottle.
Yellow goes to thermostat.

That's where your confusion begins.


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Default 12-10-2019, 12:48 PM

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I dont know it but its the long vertical pipe with Y in the middle of this picture, its OEM on the BMW 1M and also comes with the PPK upgrade kit for the second radiator. Maybe try REALOEM.



Got ya, that's part #64219222129 I was able to find it now. I thought you were talking about the hose that is half plastic and bolts up to the subframe. I wasn't seeing anything under the Radiator Hose diagram, the one you're referring to is under the Heating/Cooling diagrams. Also I had no idea there was such a setup on the 1M and PPK cars.

So if I'm finally understanding this correctly, iminhell1 does have an automatic transmission but his hose has an extra Y in it where mine doesn't (middle hose in the pic below).



He then routes this right to the coolant tank? So for the 1M hose I would remove the now "extra" hose that I have running across the engine and plug the newly added split from the 1M hose up to my coolant tank.

That makes more sense now that I see where the extra hose is coming from.
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Default 12-10-2019, 01:38 PM

The middle hose would go to the trans cooler.
I removed that and now have the same piping as you, manual car. So the only difference I have in parts from you is the routing.


The Y goes to the bottom of the upper radiator hose, there is a 90 there right now. The one hose stays there, it goes to the heater core IIRC. The other hose will go to the coolant bottle.

The 90 that did go to the coolant bottle now goes to the thermostat.

You just got rid of the 3 feet of line you don't like.

It really is that easy.


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Default 12-10-2019, 02:02 PM

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The middle hose would go to the trans cooler.
I removed that and now have the same piping as you, manual car. So the only difference I have in parts from you is the routing.


The Y goes to the bottom of the upper radiator hose, there is a 90 there right now. The one hose stays there, it goes to the heater core IIRC. The other hose will go to the coolant bottle.

The 90 that did go to the coolant bottle now goes to the thermostat.

You just got rid of the 3 feet of line you don't like.

It really is that easy.
Got it. Not that it matters for my setup, but what'd you do with the trans cooler? On an AT car isn't that part of the radiator? Can you just leave it disconnected/
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Default 12-10-2019, 07:05 PM

The trans cooler is not really much of a cooler. It's more warmer, goal is to keep trans same temp as coolant.
So coolant runs through it.

I'm going external cooler with a thermostat. This summer I had it run with no thermo and it wouldn't get warm enough. I'm hoping the addition of a thermo lets it warm up. I couldn't even reach adaption temps and I think that may have contributed some to the downfall of my trans.


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2020 mods: Speedtech S366, VTT DBBL, PR Coils, dual 450's, etc
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Default 01-26-2020, 12:06 PM

Hi bud, so have you tried these fittings. Do they fit bmw?



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So how about just using bulk hose and VW connectors (all so I don't loose them):

45 degree connectors,
http://www.dormanproducts.com/p-54247-627-000.aspx
http://www.dormanproducts.com/p-54254-627-005.aspx


90 degree connector
http://www.dormanproducts.com/p-78658-902-735.aspx

Straight connectors,
http://www.dormanproducts.com/p-54259-627-002.aspx
http://www.dormanproducts.com/p-78325-902-714.aspx

I'm going to order a few of each and see what I can come up with.


vs the stock y at the thermostat:



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Default 01-27-2020, 08:22 PM

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Hi bud, so have you tried these fittings. Do they fit bmw?



A couple did but you have the grind the alignment ribs off. They are clocked wrong, or where for what I was trying to do.


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Default 01-28-2020, 04:08 AM

I purchased the 90 degree from your link bit the diameter is too big. Do you know which one is the right size by any chance?

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A couple did but you have the grind the alignment ribs off. They are clocked wrong, or where for what I was trying to do.


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BMS WMI with single nozzle ( 10 )
JB4 map 3 w/bluetooth & antiliag
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Default 11-21-2020, 03:01 PM

Bringing this back from the dead. I'm going to swap in the 335d coolant reservoir and PS bracket so I can relocate my inlets when installing my upgraded twins.

From what I've gathered from this thread, all I need to do is buy the 1M hose and a 90 degree for the cleanest install?


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