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02-15-2011, 11:21 AM
+1 for parallels. Use it on my laptop and work machine.
you'll need the virtual emulator and a full copy of windows (cough cough torrent cough)
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02-15-2011, 11:29 AM
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I do. I work on PCs all day long, if it wasn't for Microsoft I wouldn't have a job!
That being said, I don't want to come home to work on my own machine!
Love my Mac
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We have a few Mac products around (airbook, ipad, etc) but I can't stand using them. Horribly inefficient in terms of my wanting to do something and being able to do it in a quick amount of time.. 
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02-15-2011, 12:05 PM
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We have a few Mac products around (airbook, ipad, etc) but I can't stand using them. Horribly inefficient in terms of my wanting to do something and being able to do it in a quick amount of time.. 
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Completely agree, the Apple development environment is like running through syrup.
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02-15-2011, 12:29 PM
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We have a few Mac products around (airbook, ipad, etc) but I can't stand using them. Horribly inefficient in terms of my wanting to do something and being able to do it in a quick amount of time.. 
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I think we need to see a log of you using said Apple products to see if it is a system or user issue...  lol
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02-15-2011, 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Terry @ BMS
If you have a loss of traction in 1st gear and prefer to have the tune limit boost for you then it's a good adjustment to use. But totally optional. In my step I leave 1st gear @ 12psi and 2nd gear @ 15psi. Then run progressive meth @ 17psi.
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but ... how you do that configuration?
Parameters that have to play? using Map 3
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Too bad it kills all its pupils ....
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02-15-2011, 12:31 PM
You enter 10.0 in to "max boost 1st" in the interface and press save?
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02-15-2011, 01:03 PM
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You enter 10.0 in to "max boost 1st" in the interface and press save?
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Ok. Perfect
Thanks terry
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02-15-2011, 02:19 PM
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ceporro que eres mas duro que el alcollano,ya te contare yaaa 
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 Eso si que esta comico.....lol
"That is funny"
Terry, as soon as the humid damp crappy weather lets up I will try to do a couple of pulls and get your advice.
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02-15-2011, 02:31 PM
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 Eso si que esta comico.....lol
"That is funny"
Terry, as soon as the humid damp crappy weather lets up I will try to do a couple of pulls and get your advice.
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Lo gracioso es que el ceporro lo es el 
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02-15-2011, 02:43 PM
Playing around with the 1st and 2nd gear boost limit with latest software.
I inputted 10psi for the boost limit in first gear.
Few questions i have is:
If i press the volume up or down, or the talk button, this will disable the boost limit?
Will boost limit be desabled until restarting the car? Or how does this work.
If i first start the car and press the volume button up or down does this mean it is disabled?
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02-15-2011, 02:53 PM
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If any of you "lonely hearts" have time tonight/tomorrow morning and want to help the cause I have some new firmware that needs logging. While I'm out with the wife pretending I'm not thinking of work...
Just email me.
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Ooo what's coming in this release?! :D Can't wait
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02-15-2011, 03:47 PM
Posted the 2/1 firmware. This is the same file I had emailed out to many of you yesterday. Summary of changes:
1) Set adaptive PID to default on. If for any reason you ever want to disable it you can do so by setting FutureUseD = 99.
2) Manual transmission only: Removed the old JB3 bogfix code and replaced it with a preliminary CAN based bogfix. Most manual users have reported no bog with bogfix off all together but set bogfix to 100 to enable and test the new CAN bogfix algorithm. Further refinements are coming soon.
3) Enabled map 5 with a basic adaptive/autolearning algorithm. Peak boost ranges between 12psi and 16psi based on historic knock sensor activity. Learning is enabled from 4700-6800rpm in 3rd and 4th gear. The algorithm is currently overly conservative and just implemented for data collection purposes. So don't get too excited. Yet.
4) Found and corrected a bug in the JB4 crystal oscillator failover system that could prevent the motor from running normally in the event of a crystal oscillator failure. This type of hardware failure is rare but it is important the code work properly if such a hardware failure ever does occur. From the users perspective the car would be stuck in map 0 with steering wheel controls inactive but otherwise running normally.
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It is the sole responsibility of the purchaser and installer of any BMS part to employ the correct installation techniques required to ensure the proper operation of BMS parts, and BMS disclaims any and all liability for any part failure due to improper installation or use. It is the sole responsibility of the customer to verify that the use of their vehicle and items purchased comply with federal, state and local regulations. BMS claims no legal federal, state or local certification concerning pollution controlled motor vehicles or mandated emissions requirements. BMS products labeled for use only in competition racing vehicles may only be used on competition racing vehicles operated exclusively on a closed course in conjunction with a sanctioned racing event, in accordance with all federal and state laws, and may never be operated on public roads/highways. Please click here for more information on legal requirements related to use of BMS parts.
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02-15-2011, 04:03 PM
Lol
Like busses, I just uploaded the last!
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02-15-2011, 04:05 PM
sweet! Just as I was getting bored.
Thanks Terry
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02-15-2011, 05:02 PM
So with the latest firmware release, Map 5 is safe to run on an otherwise stock car? Or should I continue to stick with Map 1. I like the idea of the adaptive/autolearning, but am definitely still ignorant to this tuning stuff. I'm learning
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Originally Posted by Terry @ BMS
Posted the 2/1 firmware. This is the same file I had emailed out to many of you yesterday. Summary of changes:
1) Set adaptive PID to default on. If for any reason you ever want to disable it you can do so by setting FutureUseD = 99.
2) Manual transmission only: Removed the old JB3 bogfix code and replaced it with a preliminary CAN based bogfix. Most manual users have reported no bog with bogfix off all together but set bogfix to 100 to enable and test the new CAN bogfix algorithm. Further refinements are coming soon.
3) Enabled map 5 with a basic adaptive/autolearning algorithm. Peak boost ranges between 12psi and 16psi based on historic knock sensor activity. Learning is enabled from 4700-6800rpm in 3rd and 4th gear. The algorithm is currently overly conservative and just implemented for data collection purposes. So don't get too excited. Yet.
4) Found and corrected a bug in the JB4 crystal oscillator failover system that could prevent the motor from running normally in the event of a crystal oscillator failure. This type of hardware failure is rare but it is important the code work properly if such a hardware failure ever does occur. From the users perspective the car would be stuck in map 0 with steering wheel controls inactive but otherwise running normally.
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02-15-2011, 05:57 PM
Just wanted to say I love the JB4. I am currently running map 2 without any issues. I have all bolt-ons. What could I adjust to make the boost kick in faster at lower RPM's? I pretty much want to get it like JB3 map 7 with lagfix. I have an AT.
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02-15-2011, 05:59 PM
I cant wait to try out map 5!
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02-15-2011, 06:08 PM
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So with the latest firmware release, Map 5 is safe to run on an otherwise stock car? Or should I continue to stick with Map 1. I like the idea of the adaptive/autolearning, but am definitely still ignorant to this tuning stuff. I'm learning 
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Right now we're looking to collect some data on map 5. So if you have time to log throw it on map 5 and send your CSV file in to me.
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02-15-2011, 06:43 PM
Ok, I'll give it a shot.
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02-15-2011, 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by moodi
I was reading firmware 20/1 updates ,terry mentions on the second point that he changed the boost limit for the first and the second gear ,how would this affect my take off (0-100)? any one tried this?
how about the adaptive PID? is this enabled by default on the new firmware?
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Really depends on the traction you are getting. This allows you to limit wheel spin which robs your take off. I jsut started using 10psi for first gear on my otherwise stock 535 and with TC off i get the slightlest bit of spin for a fraction of a second around 4000 rpm just as boost builds. I will play with it a bit but as for now 10 limit in first and none in 2nd is working great on map 1.
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02-15-2011, 07:16 PM
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Lo gracioso es que el ceporro lo es el 
Salu2
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Que es ceporro? En Puerto Rico no usamos esa palabra!
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02-15-2011, 09:45 PM
looks like map6 is still my favorite map, never been a fan of autotuning thing coz its always on the conservative side.
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02-15-2011, 10:12 PM
We have maps to please all needs! After more development we want the autotuning map to be the default. So a user can just install and enjoy. If they happen to have 93 octane then they will get more performance from it. If they happen to have 91 it will safely dial itself back. If they happen to have 93 but it turns out that 93 really performs like 89 the tune will react properly. Etc. 
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Home of the JB4 the worlds most popular turbocharged tuning system!
It is the sole responsibility of the purchaser and installer of any BMS part to employ the correct installation techniques required to ensure the proper operation of BMS parts, and BMS disclaims any and all liability for any part failure due to improper installation or use. It is the sole responsibility of the customer to verify that the use of their vehicle and items purchased comply with federal, state and local regulations. BMS claims no legal federal, state or local certification concerning pollution controlled motor vehicles or mandated emissions requirements. BMS products labeled for use only in competition racing vehicles may only be used on competition racing vehicles operated exclusively on a closed course in conjunction with a sanctioned racing event, in accordance with all federal and state laws, and may never be operated on public roads/highways. Please click here for more information on legal requirements related to use of BMS parts.
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02-15-2011, 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Terry @ BMS
We have maps to please all needs! After more development we want the autotuning map to be the default. So a user can just install and enjoy. If they happen to have 93 octane then they will get more performance from it. If they happen to have 91 it will safely dial itself back. If they happen to have 93 but it turns out that 93 really performs like 89 the tune will react properly. Etc. 
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That's good **** right there 
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02-16-2011, 01:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Terry @ BMS
We have maps to please all needs! After more development we want the autotuning map to be the default. So a user can just install and enjoy. If they happen to have 93 octane then they will get more performance from it. If they happen to have 91 it will safely dial itself back. If they happen to have 93 but it turns out that 93 really performs like 89 the tune will react properly. Etc. 
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THAT, I like.
Question though. Have you guys done any kind of testing dealing with E10 ethanol gas and the JB4? We are starting in Europe to get (Hosed  ) SuperE10(10%ethanol)/SuperE5(5%) gas in all gas stations here and they are planning to phase out SuperPlus for this garbage. Speaking with people at the dealers they are saying that BMW states all new cars can use the E10 but some do say that performance and mileage will be affected. How can I offset that or make the gas more "modfriendly" since I can't think of another word and would the JB4 compensate based on what it might see from the ECU?
Sorry for the long question.
Nick
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