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08-14-2018, 06:54 AM
The injectors is said to flow over 3000cc so I don't think
thats the problem. Seems to me there is something wrong in your tune, or the DME itself has some weird limit to allow more fuel to be injected. What is your fuel scalars set to?
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08-14-2018, 07:09 AM
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Look when I posted your showed post of me. That was after my world record run. After that I changed the LPFP System as I said. Look at the fuel it kit. Its the same like me (the stage 4 Setup of them).
Of course it is a lie if the injectors cant handle more than 22 psi!
Tony has to know how much they can Support! And when he is saying that you can drive "800+whp" with that Setup then he lies!
When you are asking how old my HPFP is then you didnt understand anything bro  I told that HPFP is high but the injectors cant handle more.
WHERE ARE THE x-People who had proven his System as he wrote me??? :D:D:D I see nobody here?!
Yes, Iam using brand new index 12 injectors.
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Haha seriously dude. Stage 4 is 3 walbro 455 not two! Two walbros on a built engine and your trying to run e100 with 800+ hp on dual walbro 450s....  
The problem is not the hpfp kit, it's you. You still didnt post logs and I bet your lpfp is the problem along with e100. For someone who breaks a world record on an n54 sure knows crap about them. Your once again blaming vtt for your fueling issues. Like I said before You wouldn't blame a turbo company for selling you a 2000hp turbo when you can't ever reach it without all fueling mods or engine mods. Tony is not at fault for you running e100 with an insufficient lpfp system for that setup. Then if the n54 OEM injectors cap out buy better ones that flow more.
https://bmw.spoolstreet.com/threads/...ile-trap.1409/
Even Tony said once you hit 800 you run out of injector. So again POST A LOG!
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08-14-2018, 07:06 PM
I'm trying to find the difficulty of posting a log... Seems you posted just to make a drama thread!
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08-14-2018, 10:46 PM
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Haha seriously dude. Stage 4 is 3 walbro 455 not two! Two walbros on a built engine and your trying to run e100 with 800+ hp on dual walbro 450s....  
The problem is not the hpfp kit, it's you. You still didnt post logs and I bet your lpfp is the problem along with e100. For someone who breaks a world record on an n54 sure knows crap about them. Your once again blaming vtt for your fueling issues. Like I said before You wouldn't blame a turbo company for selling you a 2000hp turbo when you can't ever reach it without all fueling mods or engine mods. Tony is not at fault for you running e100 with an insufficient lpfp system for that setup. Then if the n54 OEM injectors cap out buy better ones that flow more.
https://bmw.spoolstreet.com/threads/...ile-trap.1409/
Even Tony said once you hit 800 you run out of injector. So again POST A LOG!
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It Looks like that you are a fakeaccount of Tony Vargas :D
If you can read, here is the link to STAGE 4 fuel it kit with 2!!! walbros
http://www.fuel-it.com/bmw-e-series-...e-upgrade-kit/
You say that my LPFP is the Problem? :D:D:D I didnt posted logs, so how can you say that? You are funny bro :D:D:D
I will post logs later that you are happy. But you only can see that LPFP and HPFP is high and trims maxed out... thats all...
My Intension of the thread was to find some People that are running that kit. People who drive that Kind of provides power 
All I can read is that you wants to bash me :D You go the same way like Tony... You lies
The question is: WHY CANT TONY HELP???? HE HIMSELF TOLD THAT THE INJECTORS MAXED OUT! SO, FOR ME THE KIT, IN ADDITION OF OEM INJECTORS, CANT HANDLE THAT PROVIDED POWER LEVEL!!!!!
If anybody drive that kit with more power than me I will be happy!
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08-14-2018, 10:57 PM
Here are the 2 logs of that posted email ;-) It should be at 22 and 24 psi if I remember well.
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08-15-2018, 04:22 AM
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Originally Posted by BMWSwede
The injectors is said to flow over 3000cc so I don't think
thats the problem. Seems to me there is something wrong in your tune, or the DME itself has some weird limit to allow more fuel to be injected. What is your fuel scalars set to?
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08-15-2018, 07:58 AM
1. Who is tuning your car?
2. What world record?
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08-15-2018, 01:35 PM
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It Looks like that you are a fakeaccount of Tony Vargas :D
If you can read, here is the link to STAGE 4 fuel it kit with 2!!! walbros
http://www.fuel-it.com/bmw-e-series-...e-upgrade-kit/
You say that my LPFP is the Problem? :D:D:D I didnt posted logs, so how can you say that? You are funny bro :D:D:D
I will post logs later that you are happy. But you only can see that LPFP and HPFP is high and trims maxed out... thats all...
My Intension of the thread was to find some People that are running that kit. People who drive that Kind of provides power 
All I can read is that you wants to bash me :D You go the same way like Tony... You lies
The question is: WHY CANT TONY HELP???? HE HIMSELF TOLD THAT THE INJECTORS MAXED OUT! SO, FOR ME THE KIT, IN ADDITION OF OEM INJECTORS, CANT HANDLE THAT PROVIDED POWER LEVEL!!!!!
If anybody drive that kit with more power than me I will be happy!
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Your HPFP is doing extremely well! Your in the 15/16's no where near 7s which would mean that the HPFP system VTT sold you is doing exactly what it said it would. Your problem is the injectors being maxed, you need to find upgrades. Vargas system works and you cant blame him for maxing out the injectors. Maybe the tuner can increase the pulse width if he hasn't already maxed that out. Your LPFP also looks great. This is why logs work best for getting help.
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08-15-2018, 02:11 PM
ilikebigboost -
so from your mod list someone else posted, looks like you have PI - is that correct?
Sounds like you need:
* DME tuning
* PI
* to chill out a bit
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1. Who is tuning your car?
2. What world record?
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In for response to these questions 
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08-15-2018, 02:26 PM
He did the 5.5s 60-130mph run. I think he also has the WR for highest trap in a standing half.
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08-15-2018, 10:00 PM
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ilikebigboost -
so from your mod list someone else posted, looks like you have PI - is that correct?
Sounds like you need:
* DME tuning
* PI
* to chill out a bit
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I had pi before but I want to try to drive only with oem fuel System.
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08-15-2018, 10:19 PM
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Your HPFP is doing extremely well! Your in the 15/16's no where near 7s which would mean that the HPFP system VTT sold you is doing exactly what it said it would. Your problem is the injectors being maxed, you need to find upgrades. Vargas system works and you cant blame him for maxing out the injectors. Maybe the tuner can increase the pulse width if he hasn't already maxed that out. Your LPFP also looks great. This is why logs work best for getting help.
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Thats exactly what I told you... If Tony said that the System can handle 800+ whp he lying... or do you think that 22 psi, EVEN WITH CM12 nozzle METH ENABLED, are 800whp? I switched to e85 mix and the trims changed about a very small value.
Du you can read something about injectors are a limiting factor on his webside? Or that has to be upgraded? Can you read something like this on the posted email? I cant!
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08-17-2018, 09:47 AM
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Look when I posted your showed post of me. That was after my world record run. After that I changed the LPFP System as I said. Look at the fuel it kit. Its the same like me (the stage 4 Setup of them).
Of course it is a lie if the injectors cant handle more than 22 psi!
Tony has to know how much they can Support! And when he is saying that you can drive "800+whp" with that Setup then he lies!
When you are asking how old my HPFP is then you didnt understand anything bro  I told that HPFP is high but the injectors cant handle more.
WHERE ARE THE x-People who had proven his System as he wrote me??? :D:D:D I see nobody here?!
Yes, Iam using brand new index 12 injectors.
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Take a deep breath, nobody is lying to you. You simply have a problem that needs to be diagnosed.
The injectors (assuming they are real index 12's, there are tons of fake ones out there) are not limiting you. Continental leaked the white papers on them about 3y ago and even accounting for the reduced injection window a DI injector sees, these injectors are the effective equivalent of close to 3300cc injectors. Remember, these things are designed to run at 1500psi but have emergency capability to drive the car at 100kmph on LPFP pressures only (70psi). This emergency requirement is what drove the design of such HUGE injectors.
Tony explained in previous posts that he was having similar problems you are experiencing with the double barrel kit himself. He resolved it via tuning. He should be able to give you some guidance assuming you haven't pissed him off by calling him a liar in public over and over.
But remember, he isn't a tuner, he employs a tuner. And for the DBB kit to work correctly it has to be tuned correctly.
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08-21-2018, 01:45 PM
well said, dyezak.
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08-22-2018, 04:17 AM
Tony: You'll get to 800whp with this kit
Customer: I didn't
Tony: Because You are maxing your injectors way before 800whp
Customer: So I can't get to 800whp with this kit?
...no answer...Tony runs with the money...
Obviously the customer cannot get to 800whp as promised by Tony, since injector upgrades do not exist.
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08-22-2018, 11:26 AM
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Tony: You'll get to 800whp with this kit
Customer: I didn't
Tony: Because You are maxing your injectors way before 800whp
Customer: So I can't get to 800whp with this kit?
...no answer...Tony runs with the money...
Obviously the customer cannot get to 800whp as promised by Tony, since injector upgrades do not exist.
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You seem to be willfully ignoring some common sense same as the Swede
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08-27-2018, 10:08 AM
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Tony: You'll get to 800whp with this kit
Customer: I didn't
Tony: Because You are maxing your injectors way before 800whp
Customer: So I can't get to 800whp with this kit?
...no answer...Tony runs with the money...
Obviously the customer cannot get to 800whp as promised by Tony, since injector upgrades do not exist.
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exactly thats the case
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08-28-2018, 12:46 PM
I tuned Tony's car on E98 to some absurd numbers before running out of fuel.
The issues you're having with the fuel trims are common to this setup. Your tuner will need to figure out how to get around them. You haven't been lied to, but the tables in the XDF are not always defined correctly or fully. Biggest challenge with the double shotgun is stabilizing the pressures below sensor max.
I'll also add that some cars are just strange. I have tuned a handful of single shotgun cars (maybe not totally relevant to the double) on full E85 very successfully, but I currently have 2 with pressures falling at 6,000 RPM no matter what I do and despite new pumps and despite lowering ethanol content. So sometimes, these cars just suck.
Cheers 
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