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Default n54 VTT Stage 1's, E50, Inlets, FBO DYNO! - No Meth! - 10-28-2016, 03:42 PM

Alright guys here is my dyno today done at Dyno-Pro in Colorado. I got to actually Dyno my own car which was really cool and fun!

498WHP and 516TQ!

Logs are in 4th gear running map 7 19.8psi on E50 fueling.

Mods:
VTT Stage 1 + Billet Wheel Upgrade
VTT Inlets
VTT PCV
Jb4 G5 ISO
BMS E85 BEF (stock knock tables)
Map 7 19.8PSI
Stage 2 LPFP
Hartge FMIC
VRSF DP
ETS CP & Synapse BOV
Stett Vacuum Canisters
BMS Cowl Filters
STOCK HPFP
ECS TwinTake

Take a look at the logs too and to say the least i am stoked!
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File Type: csv 2016-10-28 14_41_10 Dyno Map 7 E50 fuel VTT Stage 1 and Inlets.csv (9.3 KB, 173 views)


498WHP / 516TQ : 10/29/16

VTT Stage 1 + Billet Wheel | VTT Inlets | VTT PCV Valve | JB4 G5 ISO | BMS E85 Flash | Fuel It Stage 2 | ECS TwinTake| Stett Vacuum Canisters | Hartge Stepped FMIC | VRSF DP | 91Oct w/E50 | BMS Cowl Filters | Located in Denver, Colorado - High Altitude!

Maintenance: EKPM3-DE @ 74K | Water pump & T-stat @ 70K | Valve Cover @ 50K | VTT Turbo @ 70K | HPFP @ 65K | Walnut Blasting @ 65K | 6 Injectors @ 55K | Vacuum lines @ 55K | Spark Plugs @ 75K | Boost Solenoid @ 65K

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Default 10-28-2016, 04:25 PM

SAE correction

Strong numbers especially in Colorado. Very nice
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Default 10-28-2016, 06:40 PM

Niceeee 500 ain't bad at all.


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Default 10-28-2016, 06:43 PM

Nice! Especially at that elevation. Enjoy them!


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Default 10-28-2016, 11:07 PM

Poor laggy Colorado lol I remember that pain
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Default 10-28-2016, 11:08 PM

Those are really nice numbers IMO for your setup and elevation!


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Default 10-29-2016, 02:07 AM

Very nice numbers!
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Default 10-29-2016, 04:20 AM

The correction factor value is conveniently invisible. The uncorrected numbers must be way less. What was the cf value?
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Default 10-29-2016, 04:26 AM

1.22 CF.

SAE


498WHP / 516TQ : 10/29/16

VTT Stage 1 + Billet Wheel | VTT Inlets | VTT PCV Valve | JB4 G5 ISO | BMS E85 Flash | Fuel It Stage 2 | ECS TwinTake| Stett Vacuum Canisters | Hartge Stepped FMIC | VRSF DP | 91Oct w/E50 | BMS Cowl Filters | Located in Denver, Colorado - High Altitude!

Maintenance: EKPM3-DE @ 74K | Water pump & T-stat @ 70K | Valve Cover @ 50K | VTT Turbo @ 70K | HPFP @ 65K | Walnut Blasting @ 65K | 6 Injectors @ 55K | Vacuum lines @ 55K | Spark Plugs @ 75K | Boost Solenoid @ 65K
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Default 10-29-2016, 04:42 AM

And BNK everybody uses SAE numbers. At altitude this made 404whp.

A FBO e85 335xi on Cobb protune made 346whp before mine.


498WHP / 516TQ : 10/29/16

VTT Stage 1 + Billet Wheel | VTT Inlets | VTT PCV Valve | JB4 G5 ISO | BMS E85 Flash | Fuel It Stage 2 | ECS TwinTake| Stett Vacuum Canisters | Hartge Stepped FMIC | VRSF DP | 91Oct w/E50 | BMS Cowl Filters | Located in Denver, Colorado - High Altitude!

Maintenance: EKPM3-DE @ 74K | Water pump & T-stat @ 70K | Valve Cover @ 50K | VTT Turbo @ 70K | HPFP @ 65K | Walnut Blasting @ 65K | 6 Injectors @ 55K | Vacuum lines @ 55K | Spark Plugs @ 75K | Boost Solenoid @ 65K
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Default 10-29-2016, 04:58 AM

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1.22 CF.

SAE
1.22 ouch. Had u posted the internet favorite STD correction u woulda broke 500 easy. Again props for posting SAE correction
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Default 10-29-2016, 07:17 AM

SAE is the only way to be taken seriously.

There was a DocRace Single Turbo 335xi who made 430whp on 18psi and 91 octane.

He had tons of timing pulls though but his SAE correction was 1.24 and made 534whp.


498WHP / 516TQ : 10/29/16

VTT Stage 1 + Billet Wheel | VTT Inlets | VTT PCV Valve | JB4 G5 ISO | BMS E85 Flash | Fuel It Stage 2 | ECS TwinTake| Stett Vacuum Canisters | Hartge Stepped FMIC | VRSF DP | 91Oct w/E50 | BMS Cowl Filters | Located in Denver, Colorado - High Altitude!

Maintenance: EKPM3-DE @ 74K | Water pump & T-stat @ 70K | Valve Cover @ 50K | VTT Turbo @ 70K | HPFP @ 65K | Walnut Blasting @ 65K | 6 Injectors @ 55K | Vacuum lines @ 55K | Spark Plugs @ 75K | Boost Solenoid @ 65K
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Default 10-29-2016, 07:28 AM

Pretty bad ass numbers. Enjoy the newfound power.


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Default 10-29-2016, 08:05 AM

I probably have a little work to do on the timing since I dropped a few degrees over 6krpm and could add another 2psi to my boost curve.

But for now I'm stoked with my #'s and I've driven it like this for all 8K miles on map 7. Not a single issue other than some fueling gremlins lol.


498WHP / 516TQ : 10/29/16

VTT Stage 1 + Billet Wheel | VTT Inlets | VTT PCV Valve | JB4 G5 ISO | BMS E85 Flash | Fuel It Stage 2 | ECS TwinTake| Stett Vacuum Canisters | Hartge Stepped FMIC | VRSF DP | 91Oct w/E50 | BMS Cowl Filters | Located in Denver, Colorado - High Altitude!

Maintenance: EKPM3-DE @ 74K | Water pump & T-stat @ 70K | Valve Cover @ 50K | VTT Turbo @ 70K | HPFP @ 65K | Walnut Blasting @ 65K | 6 Injectors @ 55K | Vacuum lines @ 55K | Spark Plugs @ 75K | Boost Solenoid @ 65K
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Default 10-29-2016, 08:12 AM

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The correction factor value is conveniently invisible. The uncorrected numbers must be way less. What was the cf value?
This is clearly SAE correction, well over 500WHP with the STD the platform has decided is standard for some reason.

Steve, one thing I see, AFR are pretty darn lean, 13:1 is really on the edge, we honestly run 11.8:1-12:1 be careful with being that lean, and that timing. Car is running strong thats for sure, no corrections really to speak of, so the motor seems happy!


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Default 10-29-2016, 12:14 PM

Yeah it is pretty lean, all I'm running is the BMS E85 BEF on map 7. I am told it targets 12.8 Afr top end so I'm a little leaner then that occasionally. Usually it's 12.7-12.9 both banks.


498WHP / 516TQ : 10/29/16

VTT Stage 1 + Billet Wheel | VTT Inlets | VTT PCV Valve | JB4 G5 ISO | BMS E85 Flash | Fuel It Stage 2 | ECS TwinTake| Stett Vacuum Canisters | Hartge Stepped FMIC | VRSF DP | 91Oct w/E50 | BMS Cowl Filters | Located in Denver, Colorado - High Altitude!

Maintenance: EKPM3-DE @ 74K | Water pump & T-stat @ 70K | Valve Cover @ 50K | VTT Turbo @ 70K | HPFP @ 65K | Walnut Blasting @ 65K | 6 Injectors @ 55K | Vacuum lines @ 55K | Spark Plugs @ 75K | Boost Solenoid @ 65K
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Default 10-29-2016, 12:35 PM

1.22 is more or less what it should be in Colorado.

It is always good to get the uncorrected figures to understand how much the car is really putting down.

Correction factors are calculated for NA cars. A turbo car can compensate for the less dense air to some degree. So a car with uncorrected 400whp and corrected 500whp at high altitude will put down a figure that is somewhere in between 400 and 500 at sea level.
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Default 10-29-2016, 12:57 PM

Isn't the 4th gear also an issue?
or does the correction take that into account?

I thought 5th was the preferred gear for dyno numbers ...


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Default 10-29-2016, 03:40 PM

My experience is that at higher altitude SAE actually makes more power than STD. I made 2whp more with SAE at 4,500 ft. Numerous other dynojets at my altitude typically show STD slightly lower than SAE.

OP, do you have your STD numbers too? I'd be curious to see what it's like in Colorado.
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Default 10-29-2016, 06:53 PM

Guys at sea level always increase their "altitude" for better numbers no matter what correction factor
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Default 10-30-2016, 02:35 AM

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My experience is that at higher altitude SAE actually makes more power than STD. I made 2whp more with SAE at 4,500 ft. Numerous other dynojets at my altitude typically show STD slightly lower than SAE.

OP, do you have your STD numbers too? I'd be curious to see what it's like in Colorado.
SAE and STD differ only a percent point or so depending on the combination of the affecting factors. In this example it could be e.g.: real value 1.0, SAE 1.22, STD 1.23, so in extreme conditions the largest difference by far is in between the true output VS the standards.
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Default 10-30-2016, 09:42 AM

Nope. Dyno-Pro didn't give me those #'s in STD. They all said they don't use STD anymore. Their SAE correction was based off sampling takes before the run each time.

And I did 2 4th gear pulls and 1 5th gear pull. All came out the same with the 4th gear pulls reading 5whp less.


498WHP / 516TQ : 10/29/16

VTT Stage 1 + Billet Wheel | VTT Inlets | VTT PCV Valve | JB4 G5 ISO | BMS E85 Flash | Fuel It Stage 2 | ECS TwinTake| Stett Vacuum Canisters | Hartge Stepped FMIC | VRSF DP | 91Oct w/E50 | BMS Cowl Filters | Located in Denver, Colorado - High Altitude!

Maintenance: EKPM3-DE @ 74K | Water pump & T-stat @ 70K | Valve Cover @ 50K | VTT Turbo @ 70K | HPFP @ 65K | Walnut Blasting @ 65K | 6 Injectors @ 55K | Vacuum lines @ 55K | Spark Plugs @ 75K | Boost Solenoid @ 65K
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Default 10-30-2016, 09:44 AM

This shop does local N54/N55 often and they all said the same thing. The prior record was some Hexon Turbos that made 489whp on meth and E35.


498WHP / 516TQ : 10/29/16

VTT Stage 1 + Billet Wheel | VTT Inlets | VTT PCV Valve | JB4 G5 ISO | BMS E85 Flash | Fuel It Stage 2 | ECS TwinTake| Stett Vacuum Canisters | Hartge Stepped FMIC | VRSF DP | 91Oct w/E50 | BMS Cowl Filters | Located in Denver, Colorado - High Altitude!

Maintenance: EKPM3-DE @ 74K | Water pump & T-stat @ 70K | Valve Cover @ 50K | VTT Turbo @ 70K | HPFP @ 65K | Walnut Blasting @ 65K | 6 Injectors @ 55K | Vacuum lines @ 55K | Spark Plugs @ 75K | Boost Solenoid @ 65K
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