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Default Mild Pure Stage2 N54 dyno - 10-19-2017, 03:21 PM
Hey guys,

Had a chance to see how our E92 is running in its latest incarnation as a mild hybrid turbo setup.

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JB4, off the shelf E85 hybrid back end flash map
Manual trans w/ steel flywheel and 335is/550 clutch
Pure Stage2 turbos w/ silicon inlets
Fuel-IT port injection rail and low pressure system
BMS DCI, OCC, and other little bolt on modifications
CPE intercooler
Phoenix chargepipe w/ Tial valve
Factory catback
Factory motor
Running ~E80

At 20psi (map7) it made ~530whp, ~24psi 600whp, ~25psi 615whp.

And the best part is the car runs and drives like stock. We appreciate not everyone is looking to build a 700whp or 800whp setup. I can't think of a better way to run 600whp than what we've done with this setup.
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Default 10-19-2017, 06:39 PM
Hell yea, I can't wait to see how it does at SS next weekend!

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Default 10-19-2017, 08:42 PM
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Default 10-19-2017, 09:09 PM
N54 is an absolute beast..
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Default 10-19-2017, 09:24 PM
Looking to do a similar setup, this looks amazing.
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Default 10-19-2017, 11:45 PM
Very nice power curve!

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Default 10-20-2017, 12:16 AM
Are these "DD" or HiFlows ?
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Default 10-20-2017, 02:16 AM
it looks super lean until you reach 3500 rpm (right when PI start to flow)

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Default 10-20-2017, 06:32 AM
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it looks super lean until you reach 3500 rpm (right when PI start to flow)
I think lean spool is enabled, it goes down right when boost hits target.

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Default 10-20-2017, 08:38 AM
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it looks super lean until you reach 3500 rpm (right when PI start to flow)
The hybrid map has lean spool enabled. You can disable it if you like, but with the spool up vanos changes and leaner AFR, it does improve spool with hybrids nicely.

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Default 10-20-2017, 09:18 AM
Any concerns with prop or drive shafts at those power levels?
I ask because I'm probably at a similar power level and starting to wonder about them.

One poster on another forum seemed to think the DCT that I have is more susceptible to breakages than the manuals.

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Default 10-29-2017, 08:11 AM
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The hybrid map has lean spool enabled. You can disable it if you like, but with the spool up vanos changes and leaner AFR, it does improve spool with hybrids nicely.
Not sure how is set the spool fuel table in the BMS BEF, but you don't need the lean spool feature enabled to spool this fast on hybrids.
18:1 AFRs at 3000 rpm is not lean, it's super lean

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Default 10-20-2017, 07:21 AM
[QUOTE=Terry @ BMS;564347]Fuel-IT port injection rail and low pressure system
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Fantastic results!!!

Is this the fuel system used? or was a larger LPFP needed to reach these numbers?
http://www.fuel-it.biz/n54-jb4-integrated-for-600whp/

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KWV3'3, M3 arms | ARC 8's 235/275 PS4s | MFactory Flywheel w/ Spec Stage 2+| AR downp*pes | Magnaflows | 7" VRSF IC| RB Next Gen +| inlets/outlets | ER Charge pipe| Tial BOV| BMS intake| JB4 with BEF | fuel-it stage 2 bucketless and Holley hydromat | NGK colder plugs | MHD back end flash and jb4
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Default 10-20-2017, 09:22 AM
We haven't come across any issues... If you are launching on slicks that is another story, though. People break parts at 400whp on slicks with manuals.

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Default 10-20-2017, 01:10 PM
Are these "DD" or HiFlows ?
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Default 10-20-2017, 01:35 PM
Horsepower whise what would 20psi on octane 93 do?
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Default 10-20-2017, 04:28 PM
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Horsepower whise what would 20psi on octane 93 do?
480whp+ depending on health of motor and how aggressive the tuning is.
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Default 10-20-2017, 07:44 PM
Nice results.. More than enough power for a daily driver..
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Default 10-21-2017, 10:46 AM
Nice results! any quarter mile times for this car?
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Default 10-21-2017, 02:56 PM
Are there any adjustments that would take better advantages of the inlets? Or is the E85Hybrid/Map7 good to go?

All in all, looks great. Would love to know if these are DD/Hiflow, 1.75" vs 2" inlet bands, and what inlets are on the car.

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Default 10-22-2017, 01:05 PM
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Are there any adjustments that would take better advantages of the inlets? Or is the E85Hybrid/Map7 good to go?

All in all, looks great. Would love to know if these are DD/Hiflow, 1.75" vs 2" inlet bands, and what inlets are on the car.
On the turbos I don't know, you'd have to ask Pure. They've been on there awhile so likely not the latest offerings. Inlets were from RB and are larger for hybrid turbos.

Overall the tuning is fairly well optimized. It can be pushed more aggressively but also with more risk.

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Default 10-22-2017, 04:01 PM
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On the turbos I don't know, you'd have to ask Pure. They've been on there awhile so likely not the latest offerings. Inlets were from RB and are larger for hybrid turbos.

Overall the tuning is fairly well optimized. It can be pushed more aggressively but also with more risk.
Cool man, thanks for the reply.

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Default 10-23-2017, 09:26 AM
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Are there any adjustments that would take better advantages of the inlets? Or is the E85Hybrid/Map7 good to go?

All in all, looks great. Would love to know if these are DD/Hiflow, 1.75" vs 2" inlet bands, and what inlets are on the car.
These are the Pure Stg2 HiFlow turbos with 2" inlet. Thank you!
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Default 10-23-2017, 10:10 AM
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These are the Pure Stg2 HiFlow turbos with 2" inlet. Thank you!
Nice.....nice #s.
What would the "DD" version do approximately with this same set up ?
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Default 10-24-2017, 09:32 AM
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Nice.....nice #s.
What would the "DD" version do approximately with this same set up ?
Close to the same. The "DD" turbos are intended for 600whp max.
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