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Default 05-12-2015, 11:14 AM

Looking forward seeing more results. I think pricing is good considering all the work Steve put in!


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Anything to help BMS/Fuel-it and the community. I'll see you in an hour or so if you're still at the office and we'll figure something out.
I may be sitting around at TireMan for the next hour or two. Just email me when you're in the area.


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Default 05-12-2015, 11:30 AM

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Default 05-12-2015, 01:51 PM

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Is this stand alone, or does it require a JB4?
This is a stand alone.



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Default 05-12-2015, 04:05 PM

Is pure e85 possible with this and your stage 1 lpfp upgrade running stock turbos w/ inlets at around 21psi?


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Default 05-12-2015, 04:06 PM

Any pics of how it taps the fuel line? And what kind of nozzles are being used?


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Default 05-12-2015, 04:52 PM

Steve, i'm keen to get in on this, however i also want to get the stage 2 lpfp.
I'm based in Australia so apparently not eligible for the trade in option.

If you can work out some sort of package deal for the two products, i'll happily be a tester for you.
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Default 05-12-2015, 05:18 PM

Looks great Steve, when will you have a n55 option?
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Default 05-12-2015, 06:00 PM

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Is pure e85 possible with this and your stage 1 lpfp upgrade running stock turbos w/ inlets at around 21psi?
Hard to say for sure. It depends on how much power you're actually making and the tune. One of our test vehicles maxed it out on E60 at about 500whp but was targeting AFRs of 11.9:1

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Any pics of how it taps the fuel line? And what kind of nozzles are being used?
Pictures will be included in the installation guide. We'll try and get that posted up soon.

Nozzles are custom and manufactured specifically for this application.

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Steve, i'm keen to get in on this, however i also want to get the stage 2 lpfp.
I'm based in Australia so apparently not eligible for the trade in option.

If you can work out some sort of package deal for the two products, i'll happily be a tester for you.
We have a distributor in Australia that can set you up with the Stage 2 Trade-In option. His username on here is JD75.

For the throttlebody injection kit, we won't be doing any package deals at this time. Maybe after we do the full release.

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Looks great Steve, when will you have a n55 option?
As soon as we find/make the bolts needed for that manifold, we'll get one fitted to our N55 and release details at that time.



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Default 05-12-2015, 06:41 PM

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We have a distributor in Australia that can set you up with the Stage 2 Trade-In option. His username on here is JD75.

For the throttlebody injection kit, we won't be doing any package deals at this time. Maybe after we do the full release.
Ok great. I've had a couple of conversations with him already about other things so that works. I'll get onto that.

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Looking forward seeing more results. I think pricing is good considering all the work Steve put in!
Same here, looks like a good product.
Keen to see more results and the N55 version released.
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Default 05-13-2015, 12:11 AM

can we run 100% e85 with this on stock turbos?
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Default 05-13-2015, 12:16 AM

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can we run 100% e85 with this on stock turbos?
That's exactly what i intend to be doing. Given you're likely to top out at ~450hp on stock turbos, i expect you will be fine. On stock lpfp and hpfp i have been able to run 100% e85 (or e70+ based on blend) fine for 3rd gear pulls, however the hpfp takes a dive towards the top of 4th.

Given the price difference in E85 compared to RON98 here ($20 per fill up), this kit will pay for itself quite quickly.
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Default 05-13-2015, 12:38 AM

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can we run 100% e85 with this on stock turbos?
Yes, that was the original goal of this project. It is also what we are running in the logs that are the first post.



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Default 05-13-2015, 01:46 AM

Awesome work Steve as always
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Default 05-13-2015, 10:05 AM

soo let me get this straight. This will aide the hpfp in delivering fuel and will allow us to run full e85 without killing the hpfp? Any help to the lpfp? I ask because i ran full e85 last summer and ended up killing my 3rd hpfp so i've backed off to e45 now..


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Default 05-13-2015, 10:45 AM

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Awesome work Steve as always
Thanks!

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soo let me get this straight. This will aide the hpfp in delivering fuel and will allow us to run full e85 without killing the hpfp? Any help to the lpfp? I ask because i ran full e85 last summer and ended up killing my 3rd hpfp so i've backed off to e45 now..
Yes and no.

It will not aid the HPFP in delivering fuel, but it will reduce the demand placed on it due to the supplemental fueling.

Yes, if you are running stock turbos and a Stage 2 LPFP upgrade, you can run 100% E85.

No it does NOT reduce the load on the LPFP as that is what is directly feeding the throttlebody injection.



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Default 05-13-2015, 10:51 AM

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Yes, if you are running stock turbos and a Stage 2 LPFP upgrade, you can run 100% E85.
THIS. I meet all the requirements (even not running meth) and I'm considering not for the power gains, but so I won't have to mix any longer.


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Default 05-13-2015, 10:56 AM

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THIS. I meet all the requirements (even not running meth) and I'm considering not for the power gains, but so I won't have to mix any longer.
so let me get this strait, you are going to spend hundreds of dollars in order to run more ethanol that will result in less power...because you are too lazy to fill up twice...


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Default 05-13-2015, 11:12 AM

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so let me get this strait, you are going to spend hundreds of dollars in order to run more ethanol that will result in less power...because you are too lazy to fill up twice...
Less power? Huh?
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Default 05-13-2015, 11:25 AM

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Less power? Huh?
so far E65 yields the most power


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Default 05-13-2015, 11:31 AM

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so far E65 yields the most power
Do you have any testing to justify this claim? How can a lower octane gas yield most power? I would say tuning was off in any testing that would claim to have better results with less octane. Doesn't make sense to me in anyway.


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Default 05-13-2015, 11:46 AM

or fueling limited.
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Default 05-13-2015, 11:52 AM

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so let me get this strait, you are going to spend hundreds of dollars in order to run more ethanol that will result in less power...because you are too lazy to fill up twice...
Care to quantify that statement?

Yes it is true that running more than E60ish does not result in more power as the octane levels are sufficient to run max timing and boost...but it does not mean it results in less power.

However it could be argued that running more than E60 would result in cooler EGT's.



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