504whp dyno of my pure stage 2 and logs -
07-15-2020, 02:41 PM
I went to a dyno today and did 3 dyno pulls. 2 pulls on map 7 and one pull on map 2. car made 504whp and 504wtq on map 7 and 451whp and 461wtq on map 2. The 328whp run is a friends 100% stock 2018 440i on the same dyno.
please look at my logs and tell me what need to be done. The car is running the mhd back end flash e85 flash for hybrid turbos. The car runs 50%91 octane and 50%e85 which comes on to about 44%-47% ethanol. Car has full bolt ons with the pure stage 2 DD turbos with RB inlets. stage 2 low pressure pump and i do not have port injection. Car is also running spec stage 2+clutch and oem dual mass flywheel.
Also i tuned my turbo s2000 there on the same day. s2000 runs on e85 with a garrett gtx3076r running on an aem ems, with pretty much everything done to it.
2007 e90 335i
pure stgae 2 DD turbos, rb inlets, bms 4 bar map sensor
Jb4 with mhd hybrid e85 back end flash, vrsf down pipe vrsf 7" intercooler, vrsf charge pipe with tial bov and afe intake. Fuel it stage 2 pump and fuel line/ethanol content kit.
spec stage 2+ clutch with new oem dmfw
Last edited by Riceball777; 07-15-2020 at 06:33 PM..
2007 e90 335i
pure stgae 2 DD turbos, rb inlets, bms 4 bar map sensor
Jb4 with mhd hybrid e85 back end flash, vrsf down pipe vrsf 7" intercooler, vrsf charge pipe with tial bov and afe intake. Fuel it stage 2 pump and fuel line/ethanol content kit.
spec stage 2+ clutch with new oem dmfw
Have you butt dynoed with weaker e85 blends? I mean, do you feel the big power picked up only after you closed in on 50% ethanol? That 91 crap is so hard to work with Im curious to your experience on e10-e30
Overboosting a bit in the midrange.
Hpfp dips a little but I believe that is caused from overboost and throttle closure. lpfp dipping as well. I would upgrade lpfp and run PI if you want to push more. If happy as is, I would do a little duty bias tuning in the midrange.
I know a guy from Long Beach that got his E93 dyno'd and looks to be the same shop.
You from SoCal ?
Yeah i'm from the los angeles area.
Shop is church automotive testing
2007 e90 335i
pure stgae 2 DD turbos, rb inlets, bms 4 bar map sensor
Jb4 with mhd hybrid e85 back end flash, vrsf down pipe vrsf 7" intercooler, vrsf charge pipe with tial bov and afe intake. Fuel it stage 2 pump and fuel line/ethanol content kit.
spec stage 2+ clutch with new oem dmfw
Overboosting a bit in the midrange.
Hpfp dips a little but I believe that is caused from overboost and throttle closure. lpfp dipping as well. I would upgrade lpfp and run PI if you want to push more. If happy as is, I would do a little duty bias tuning in the midrange.
thanks for this info
i Dont understand why i need to upgrade the single walbro 450 fuel pump because I make well over 600whp on full e85 with a single walbro 450 in my honda s2000. I'm only making 504whp with my 335i amd it only runs 50%e85.
but yeah i been thinking about getting port injection.
Do you think there is more power to be made with my 335i without upgrading my single walbro 450 and with out getting port injection.
2007 e90 335i
pure stgae 2 DD turbos, rb inlets, bms 4 bar map sensor
Jb4 with mhd hybrid e85 back end flash, vrsf down pipe vrsf 7" intercooler, vrsf charge pipe with tial bov and afe intake. Fuel it stage 2 pump and fuel line/ethanol content kit.
spec stage 2+ clutch with new oem dmfw
They are a tuning dyno shop. I have been going there for 15+ years for all my hondas and evo. But they do not tune the n54. I cannot find a dyno that will tune my 2007 335i. None of the biggest import dynos shops will tune my 335i. Even the bmw dyno shops will not tune a n54. . I called ssr performance and european auto source and these are big bmw tuning shops with in house dynos and they said they do not tune n54 cars!!!
2007 e90 335i
pure stgae 2 DD turbos, rb inlets, bms 4 bar map sensor
Jb4 with mhd hybrid e85 back end flash, vrsf down pipe vrsf 7" intercooler, vrsf charge pipe with tial bov and afe intake. Fuel it stage 2 pump and fuel line/ethanol content kit.
spec stage 2+ clutch with new oem dmfw
Last edited by Riceball777; 07-17-2020 at 05:23 PM..
They are a tuning dyno shop. I have been going there for 15+ years for all my hondas and evo. But they do not tune the n54. I cannot find a dyno that will tune my 2007 335i. Not of the biggest import dynos shops will tune my 335i. Even the bmw dyno shops will not tune a n54. . I called ssr performance and european auto source and these are big bmw tuning shops with in house dynos and they said they do not tune n54 cars!!!
Righttttt, I remember you posting about that now.
From the log I looked at, it needs very little to be fully dialed in. Overall log looks ok, but I would start with the overboost.
Higher the boost, as you know, the more fuel required. So I would start from there and see if hpfp and lpfp are a little happier .
Not a huge deal, but I would start from there and evaluate if it were my car.
Last edited by THE BEAST; 07-17-2020 at 04:56 PM..
i Dont understand why i need to upgrade the single walbro 450 fuel pump because I make well over 600whp on full e85 with a single walbro 450 in my honda s2000. I'm only making 504whp with my 335i amd it only runs 50%e85.
but yeah i been thinking about getting port injection.
Do you think there is more power to be made with my 335i without upgrading my single walbro 450 and with out getting port injection.
Different turbo(s), motor, compression ratio, etc
As far as more power, you can probably squeeze a little more out but not much. Not safely anyway.
What's with Trims 2 being 0 the whole time?
Is that a matter of being aftermarket turbos? Or?
Also, yes, your timing is tight, even perfect. I'm envious.
Just curious about the overall engine health - mileage, intake port cleaning, etc.
My timing is decent, but not flawless. It happens to be more advanced and maybe if I pulled it back it would be flawless as well. Just curious.
Agreed your FP_L is getting into the hurt zone. Just keep an eye is all.
Nothing really wrong. But in my experience before I went dme flash tune. I had way too many issues and bugs. Would get 30ff code for no reason. Get random fuel pump over voltage codes, etc.
There are plenty of people who have jb4 trouble free and its everything they need. I made the decision to remove it and get a dyno tune from a expert bmw tuner and love it. No issues ever since, except my ethanol content sensor has recently started going nuts...
2009 E92 335i AT Engine
Rev9 Hybrid 16t twins, Injen cyborg intake, CP-e charge pipe with HKS SSqv BOV, RB external PCV catch can, BMS catch can, Cobb intercooler, HKS Legamax exhaust, RB inlets, VTT single barrel hpfp, fuel-it! stage 2 lpfp, MOTiV Flex fuel flash only w/ trans tune by Cedar Performance
558rwhp and 523rwtq on e60 110* ambient air
Also ditch the jb4 and get a competent bmw tuner for a legit tune controlled by your dme
Given the fuel he is using and hardware (turbos, lpfp, no PI , Etc), what could a competent tuner do for him ????
The jb4 is not an issue,nor the tune, his hardware is what is limiting his power. Not everyone wants to push to the limits.
What's with Trims 2 being 0 the whole time?
Is that a matter of being aftermarket turbos? Or?
Also, yes, your timing is tight, even perfect. I'm envious.
Just curious about the overall engine health - mileage, intake port cleaning, etc.
My timing is decent, but not flawless. It happens to be more advanced and maybe if I pulled it back it would be flawless as well. Just curious.
Agreed your FP_L is getting into the hurt zone. Just keep an eye is all.
Trims 2 probably due to the firmware he is running or he enabled trims 2 to read under avg ign but id have to go back and look at his log to be able to tell.
Is this log how you have settings currently ? Or the dyno run ?
I had looked at attached log only initially and commented on overboost, but in this log some settings are off that on the dyno run are more correct and does not overboost.