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Default 09-22-2020, 02:34 PM

Go back to firmware explanations in page 1 of this thread. I believe it is in User Settings - Boost Drop 1st, 2nd, 3rd. Looks like this is a subtract from whatever map you are running. I would enter into those settings and see if it does indeed lower the boost in Map 5 like you are looking for. I don't see much discussion about it here or the Q50/Q60 forum.
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Default 09-22-2020, 09:15 PM

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Question for the experienced folks.
Vehicle is a 2017 Q60 non rs rwd.
Lower down ***** and bms intakes.
Jb4 with fuel wires running 93 octane.

I've been doing a lot of testing on diferent maps on different gears reviewed the longs to see how far I can get with more smoothly boost, timing and afrs curves.
The question is.
Can boost by gear be setup on map 5?
I'm trying to see if I can get 13 psi in fisrt, 15 psi in 2nd and 16 in 3rd. Of course if timing and afrs look good.

Thanks in advance.
The boost by gear reductions are active for all maps.


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Default 09-23-2020, 06:24 AM

Thanks Terry. I think I'm getting there.
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Default 09-26-2020, 09:46 AM

Did 3 pulls with the ewg wires installed ( no fuel wires yet) on map 6 with the duty bias set to 40 from 4.5k through 7, was pulling time so ando adjusted. Tell hows it looking.. thanks.
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Talking Map3 for review Stock RS noEGW or Fuel connected - 09-26-2020, 07:33 PM

Here is a Quick Map 3 log for stock RS
P50_M3_R1_200926_0815.csv

A Member Mention I will benefit from Fuel Wires, I do have them but since Passenger side is not as easy not being able to connect. Any Inside on how they will help from Attached Map.

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Default 09-28-2020, 07:19 AM

The fuel wires will lean out the AFR at higher RPM. Where you see low 11 values they will be bottom out at high 11 or low 12. This provides a bit more power at high RPM. Many run without installing them, so no need to rush installing them. Best if you can get someone with small hands to help!
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Default 09-28-2020, 08:18 AM

Redgoyabean - these logs look much better than the one you posted 09-20-2020, 08:08 AM. Still show a drop to 2.5 at 4500 -5500 RPM (not sure it is enough to be concerned about). Maybe set boost target at 6.5 in that range to see if it helps if you want to be really careful. Maybe someone else will chime in if I am off base on that concern.
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Default 09-28-2020, 09:14 AM

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Redgoyabean - these logs look much better than the one you posted 09-20-2020, 08:08 AM. Still show a drop to 2.5 at 4500 -5500 RPM (not sure it is enough to be concerned about). Maybe set boost target at 6.5 in that range to see if it helps if you want to be really careful. Maybe someone else will chime in if I am off base on that concern.
Thanks for the insight bro. I rarely ever go WOT to be honest so im not really beating on the car. Definitely going to lower the boost in that rpm range. 1 quick question, trying to figure out how lowering my duty bias from 50 to 40 between 4500rpm n 7000rpm help with my timing. Is it that same as if I simply lowered the boost in the same rpm range. From my understanding the wastegate bypasses the turbos. Still learning all this. Thanks.
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Default 09-28-2020, 10:18 AM

I am still learning also - but what you say makes sense. Allows more exhaust gas to bypass the turbos, thereby allowing more gradual build of boost. The most frequent positive feedback about addition of the wastegate control wires is that it allowed boost to build MORE suddenly that drivers feel in the "butt dyno". Stands to reason that lowering the bias would lower that effect. Possible the more gradual build allows the car to adjust in other ways before timing is pulled?
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Hi everyone new jb4 owner here. Iím hoping you can take a look at my map 2 log. Iím on 91 fuel and at sea level. The car is all stock 2018 3.0t luxe. I have the fuel wires hooked up I didnít see in setting where to turn them on thank you.
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Default Yesterday, 08:29 AM

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Hi everyone new jb4 owner here. Iím hoping you can take a look at my map 2 log. Iím on 91 fuel and at sea level. The car is all stock 2018 3.0t luxe. I have the fuel wires hooked up I didnít see in setting where to turn them on thank you.
Fuel Wires - Check 1st post in this thread.

Optional fuel control wires:

Dyno Test: N54Tech.com - International Turbo Racing Discussion - View Single Post - Infiniti Q50 3.0t VR30DDTT Red Sport and Silver Sport BMS Stage1 JB4

Cliff Notes: Short fuel wire w/ resistor goes in spot 21, long wire goes in spot 20, and both wires then posi-tap to the white signal control wire in the primary o2 sensors. JB4 v6+ firmware required, to enable fuel control set FutureUseD bit0 on.

Options (FUD) bit selections as of v8 firmware:
fud.0 - Enable fuel control wires
fud.1 - Test AFR algorithm
fud.2 - Disable warmup safety
fud.3 - Don't use
fud.4 - Disable over boost, run lean, fuel pressure safety
fud.5 - Disable EWG offset
fud.6 - Vehicle is an RS
fud.7 - Linear pedal input


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Default Yesterday, 10:10 AM

Thank you for your help I donít see FUD 0 But I see bit 0 in set options is that the same option?
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Fuel Wires - Check 1st post in this thread.

Optional fuel control wires:

Dyno Test: N54Tech.com - International Turbo Racing Discussion - View Single Post - Infiniti Q50 3.0t VR30DDTT Red Sport and Silver Sport BMS Stage1 JB4

Cliff Notes: Short fuel wire w/ resistor goes in spot 21, long wire goes in spot 20, and both wires then posi-tap to the white signal control wire in the primary o2 sensors. JB4 v6+ firmware required, to enable fuel control set FutureUseD bit0 on.

Options (FUD) bit selections as of v8 firmware:
fud.0 - Enable fuel control wires
fud.1 - Test AFR algorithm
fud.2 - Disable warmup safety
fud.3 - Don't use
fud.4 - Disable over boost, run lean, fuel pressure safety
fud.5 - Disable EWG offset
fud.6 - Vehicle is an RS
fud.7 - Linear pedal input


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Default Yesterday, 10:28 AM

On the JB4 (IOS) application - it is under User Adjustment Settings - Options (just below Future Use A) - Bits - flip Bit0 On (Green). Be sure to save your configuration and go back to double check it.


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