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Default Phoenix Racing Aluminum Intake Manifold w/ Port Injection for N55! - 09-05-2018, 09:34 PM

Good news, have these in stock for N55 motors now too!

http://www.burgertuning.com/N54_PORT..._MANIFOLD.html

Available with or without a matching Fuel-IT injector and PNP fuel line kit! $649 for the manifold and $1049 with the PNP injector kit!





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Default 09-05-2018, 10:16 PM

Sweet!!! F series n55 compatible too right? (I mean it should be as the manifolds between the E series N55 and F series N55 are the same).

How much of the engine cover needs to be cut to make it fit?


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Default 09-06-2018, 10:49 AM

Yes, E and F compatible.

On engine covers don't know. We removed them on ours. Plan on not running one and maybe you can trim to fit as needed.


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Default 09-06-2018, 11:36 AM

Awesome, I am close to pulling the trigger on PI and this is exactly what I need. I'm going to love getting rid of that plastic intake manifold.


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Default 09-06-2018, 02:56 PM

If you already have the Fuel-It PI kit and want to move the injectors over, is there any way to buy the kit without the 750cc injectors but everything else?

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Default 09-06-2018, 04:04 PM

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If you already have the Fuel-It PI kit and want to move the injectors over, is there any way to buy the kit without the 750cc injectors but everything else?

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Yup! Phoenix Racing N55 Port Injection Intake Manifold ala-cart ($649.99)

http://www.burgertuning.com/N54_PORT..._MANIFOLD.html


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Default 09-07-2018, 10:17 AM

If I wanted to run Port Meth Injection and I already have the BMS Meth kit, what other pieces besides this intake are needed?

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If I wanted to run Port Meth Injection and I already have the BMS Meth kit, what other pieces besides this intake are needed?

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You would need a couple of fittings and lines to cross over your current stuff to PI. Steve@fuel it should be able to take care of you if you email him, he can also set you up with the manifold.


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Default 09-30-2018, 08:47 PM

Are the injectors that come with the kit methanol compatible?

Also, can I just buy the entire kit and plug in my Fuel-It methanol JB4 PI controller to the injectors and be good to go, or will there need to be changes made to the controller?

Thanks in advance! I'll be purchasing one of these for my F87 assuming its plug-and-play with my current PI setup!


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Default 09-30-2018, 09:16 PM

Controller is the same. Injectors are the same ones in the Fuel-IT PI kit which they say are meth compatible.


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Default 10-01-2018, 04:36 AM

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Controller is the same. Injectors are the same ones in the Fuel-IT PI kit which they say are meth compatible.
Perfect! Thanks for the info Terry


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Default 10-01-2018, 07:13 AM

Looks awesome under the engine bay.


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Default 10-14-2018, 06:09 AM

Would I still need to get the FI650HP kit? Also if I plan on doing meth I can still use the chargepipe bung?


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Would I still need to get the FI650HP kit? Also if I plan on doing meth I can still use the chargepipe bung?
If you plan on doing full e85, then you will need to upgrade your LPFP.

We advise against methanol and PI together, there is no benefit in running both at the same time. PI is what you should be using.


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Default 10-15-2018, 10:29 AM

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If you plan on doing full e85, then you will need to upgrade your LPFP.

We advise against methanol and PI together, there is no benefit in running both at the same time. PI is what you should be using.
I would be running meth for the octane boost and the pi for additional fueling not e85. I'm in CA and can only get 91 octane and e85 isnt conveniently/efficiently located near me.


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I would be running meth for the octane boost and the pi for additional fueling not e85. I'm in CA and can only get 91 octane and e85 isnt conveniently/efficiently located near me.
You should do meth port injection then with the intake manifold.


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You should do meth port injection then with the intake manifold.
I thought the bottle neck for over 450hp was not enough fueling? So why would I do port meth and not fueling?


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Meth is fuel.


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Default 10-15-2018, 01:37 PM

The more methanol you spray the more fueling and octane benefit you will get. At those power levels pump gas will not have enough octane to push you further so while you need more fuel you also need more octane. The amount of methanol sprayed through a single nozzle will not get you the results you want. I agree with Payam, methanol port injection would be best for your application.


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So meth with port injection will support 500whp alone?


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Default 10-15-2018, 03:10 PM

I have not ran it personally but I don't see why you wouldn't be able to run that much volume. I think the real question is how much can the pump supply and how quickly do you need to refill your methanol tank. Are you running a different turbo?


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Default 10-15-2018, 04:35 PM

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So meth with port injection will support 500whp alone?
It is capable of a lot more than that but yes it can do 500whp without issues.


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Default 10-15-2018, 04:55 PM

Terry, Payam or Steve, do you happen to have the specs of the O-rings on the fuel injection side for the injectors (the side that goes into the intake manifold)?

I'm planning on swapping my 550cc injectors over from my fuel-it rail to this manifold and would like to replace the O-rings on that side for peace of mind. I already have the the specs of O-rings for the feed side, just need them for the injection side... assuming they're different?


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I have not ran it personally but I don't see why you wouldn't be able to run that much volume. I think the real question is how much can the pump supply and how quickly do you need to refill your methanol tank. Are you running a different turbo?
I'm not running anything yet, I'm FBO but I'm trying to learn and plan for future upgrades. I dont have a specific HP goal other than what ps2 and the intake port injection can do safely and DD reliablely.

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It is capable of a lot more than that but yes it can do 500whp without issues.
Which do you think is gonna be the better way to get close or over 500whp reliably yet cost efficiently(its a DD) with fuel injection or meth?


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I'm not running anything yet, I'm FBO but I'm trying to learn and plan for future upgrades. I dont have a specific HP goal other than what ps2 and the intake port injection can do safely and DD reliablely.

Which do you think is gonna be the better way to get close or over 500whp reliably yet cost efficiently(its a DD) with fuel injection or meth?
100% with methanol to get 500wHP and have it run solid. Methanol isn't as much as a burden as people make it out to be. Get a decent sized tank and you really won't have to worry about it too much unless you're doing extensive track days. In those cases, just prepare ahead of time and bring out extra methanol with you.

I run a 3 gallon tank and methanol PI on my PS2 M2 and haven't regretted it once.


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