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Default 03-24-2012, 07:37 AM

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Glove box is very easy but for many who only update once or twice a year throwing it on top of the DME and just lifting one black cover and running it in the window is even easier!
Agree, I just got one of those rubber plugs that fit over the connector to keep it clean.


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Default 03-25-2012, 08:13 AM

Support request or help me posts are always deleted from this thread without being read. Review the FAQ in the first post.


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Default 03-26-2012, 01:13 PM

ok, understood.

can you answer the other question concerning if i could get even more out from the engine with the JB4 than it offers normally? would like to have that little bit extra power just for special situations and short terms.... sometimes
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Default 03-26-2012, 02:24 PM

100% Race fuel and map 7

Or meth Kit with higher concentrations of meth will let you get away with another psi or so


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Cool 03-26-2012, 09:34 PM

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ok, understood.

can you answer the other question concerning if i could get even more out from the engine with the JB4 than it offers normally? would like to have that little bit extra power just for special situations and short terms.... sometimes
The JB4 "learns" or automatically tunes several parameters on any given map. The tuned values, however, are not stored on a per-map basis. If you want the most from your JB4, find a map# you can live with and keep it there.

If you want less power.... do not press the pedal as hard.


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Default 03-27-2012, 10:51 AM

Okay I've searched a bit and can't find a good answer. I'm running Half 91 octane and Half E85 with Map 7. It runs good, but I've been wanting to run the BMS Water Meth kit with JB4 integration, is anybody running water meth on top of the 50/50 E85/91 octane mix? I hadn't seen many posts on it so I didn't know if anybody was running it.


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Default 03-27-2012, 02:13 PM

I do. Run an 80/20 meth/water ratio and 50/50 91/E85.
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Default 03-27-2012, 04:26 PM

I didn't know we could fill up half way with 91 and the other half with E85? Where can I read more?
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Default 03-27-2012, 08:25 PM

I don't think there is any written approval for this mix. There are many of us doing this without problems. Be careful...once you do this, you can't go back. You will become an addict. The power it adds is crazy! I have an XI and lose traction in 2nd at times.
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Default 03-27-2012, 08:29 PM

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I don't think there is any written approval for this mix. There are many of us doing this without problems. Be careful...once you do this, you can't go back. You will become an addict. The power it adds is crazy! I have an XI and lose traction in 2nd at times.
time to upgrade those tires
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Default 03-28-2012, 05:10 AM

I have tried the E85/93 mix as well. Agree with Steve that it is pure crack, especially with meth on top. I am RWD and have gotten the yellow DTC warning light in 3rd and 4th. That's with 275/35 rubber in the rear.
But I backed off it as several friends scared me into thinking it might harm the HPFP or engine. I have not seen any long term studies on this, but I can't really afford a massive failure. I am off warranty and it is all on me if something blows.
Instead i treat myself to some Shell URT 110 octane mixed with base 93. That is even more rocking but beaucoup coin.
With these high octane mixes the car is frisky even before JB4 kicks in. So it's a permanent power increase, just becomes more noticable when the map kicks in.


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Default 03-28-2012, 05:21 AM

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I have tried the E85/93 mix as well. Agree with Steve that it is pure crack, especially with meth on top. I am RWD and have gotten the yellow DTC warning light in 3rd and 4th. That's with 275/35 rubber in the rear.
But I backed off it as several friends scared me into thinking it might harm the HPFP or engine. I have not seen any long term studies on this, but I can't really afford a massive failure. I am off warranty and it is all on me if something blows.
Instead i treat myself to some Shell URT 110 octane mixed with base 93. That is even more rocking but beaucoup coin.
With these high octane mixes the car is frisky even before JB4 kicks in. So it's a permanent power increase, just becomes more noticable when the map kicks in.
I have been running 40% E85 for over a year no issues at all, JB4 map7 is great (when I am out of meth) With meth on map3 it is insane
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Default 03-28-2012, 09:25 AM

Hmm how much 100 would I have to mix with 93 to run Map2 on an otherwise stock car?

On a related note, what is it about ********* that allows you to run the Map2 boost with the same octane as Map1?
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Default 03-28-2012, 10:00 AM

I ran it on straight 93 w Map 2 and no issues. DCI as well. Found it to be stronger than Map 1 for my car.


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Default 03-28-2012, 11:09 AM

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I don't think there is any written approval for this mix. There are many of us doing this without problems. Be careful...once you do this, you can't go back. You will become an addict. The power it adds is crazy! I have an XI and lose traction in 2nd at times.
So I gave it a try & put in 5 gals of e85 and topped off w/ 92 oct. My logs look the same. I guess it's looking for more e85...
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Default 03-28-2012, 11:29 AM

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So I gave it a try & put in 5 gals of e85 and topped off w/ 92 oct. My logs look the same. I guess it's looking for more e85...
What is the % of E85/92?
What map are you trying?
Try map 5 and give it some time to adapt.
You might want to try map 7, log it and send it to Terry
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Default 03-28-2012, 11:44 AM

5 gallons in a full tank is about 33%. Map 3, FBO w/ meth. had 6 pulls to adapt. Terry has early logs. Going to 15 ohm board this week.
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Default 03-28-2012, 01:23 PM

Hey Terry, what's your two cents on the e85 discussion?
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Default 03-28-2012, 01:42 PM

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I ran it on straight 93 w Map 2 and no issues. DCI as well. Found it to be stronger than Map 1 for my car.
I tried that and timing looked horrible, even with cool ambient temps. I rather play it safe and add octane.
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Default 03-28-2012, 02:57 PM

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I ran it on straight 93 w Map 2 and no issues. DCI as well. Found it to be stronger than Map 1 for my car.
Not a good plan. Only the 335IS has a timing curve that can use 93 octane on Map2 without down *****. Even so I mix fuel to boost it to 95 octane


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Default 03-28-2012, 03:11 PM

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Hey Terry, what's your two cents on the e85 discussion?
If you have access to E85 it's a good octane supplement. Keep the mix around 20-30% to avoid most related headaches and use map 2. The E85 will allow it to max out advance and pickup a good 15-20hp over 93 octane alone. When you start running a 50/50 mix, using map 7, etc, then you start to run in to headaches.


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Default 03-28-2012, 05:19 PM

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If you have access to E85 it's a good octane supplement. Keep the mix around 20-30% to avoid most related headaches and use map 2. The E85 will allow it to max out advance and pickup a good 15-20hp over 93 octane alone. When you start running a 50/50 mix, using map 7, etc, then you start to run in to headaches.
Yep I got throttle closure when I got greedy with E85 and by the way great job on the new firmware upgrade. Went ahead and installed the 3/7 Firmware last night and my logs were beautiful on the first three runs using map 5. I was previously on map 1/2 and after reading the last two months of posts I decided to try map 5. Previously it didn't seem to run as well with map 5 and I just kept it on map 1 since we didn't have 93 octane until recently. Maybe it was the better gas, but still I think the new firmware made a huge difference. The biggest thing I noticed is I had no more throttle closure issues, felt smoother and of course ran its ass off.
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Default 03-28-2012, 07:24 PM

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If you have access to E85 it's a good octane supplement. Keep the mix around 20-30% to avoid most related headaches and use map 2. The E85 will allow it to max out advance and pickup a good 15-20hp over 93 octane alone. When you start running a 50/50 mix, using map 7, etc, then you start to run in to headaches.
Hmmm, very interesting. I use map 2/ 93 oct for daily driving right now since my meth kit is out, I might just give that a try.

I assume it wouldn't make much of a difference with my meth kit installed though, right?


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With meth there is little need for an E85 mix unless you're going for extreme boost levels.


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Default 03-28-2012, 08:26 PM

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every once in a while i keep getting the hazards or ''shift lights'' comin on randomly when driving is this some sort of bug?
Ive actually been getting this too. It only blinks once randomly with the car at full temp. Its completely random bc ive tried to pinpoint it on speeds, boost, oil temp, and ive not been able to narrow it down... Its not the double flash that means the temp is above 160 so dont blame it on that please...


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