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Default 08-06-2015, 11:22 PM

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Working on some throttle revisions, and I'm thinking of taking menu 11 in dash away from open loop adjustment (which I don't think anyone ever changes on the fly anyway) and moving that to throttle sensitivity. e.g. 0 would be super dead throttle, 7000rpm would be a very hyper active throttle, and default somewhere in between.

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Default 08-07-2015, 06:20 AM

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Working on some throttle revisions, and I'm thinking of taking menu 11 in dash away from open loop adjustment (which I don't think anyone ever changes on the fly anyway) and moving that to throttle sensitivity. e.g. 0 would be super dead throttle, 7000rpm would be a very hyper active throttle, and default somewhere in between.

Thoughts?
Yes yes yes. I've never touched menu 11 anyway.


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Default 08-07-2015, 06:41 AM

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Working on some throttle revisions, and I'm thinking of taking menu 11 in dash away from open loop adjustment (which I don't think anyone ever changes on the fly anyway) and moving that to throttle sensitivity. e.g. 0 would be super dead throttle, 7000rpm would be a very hyper active throttle, and default somewhere in between.

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I adjust menu 11 on the fly betimes but would be ok with those changes since it still can be modified quite quickly via android app.

What are this throttle sensitivity parameters about? Kind of alternative for the "Torque Request%" table in DME software?
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Default 08-07-2015, 09:47 AM

OK coded it and did a little in house testing and it seems OK. Need a few testers though to verify its working under various situations. If you come across any issues grab a JB4 log of those and email them in.

The range on menu 11 right now is 0 = least sensitive and 5000 rpm = most sensitive. Based on feedback we can adjust the allowable range. ISO v30 firmware was set to an equivalent of 500rpm, for example. To start I tuned it such that 0 is about as dead and 5000 is about as aggressive as I'd ever want to personally run. This firmware also has a change to to improve oscillation and rattle at very low throttle where some have reported "wonkiness" so be sure to evaluate that as well.


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Default 08-07-2015, 10:23 AM

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Please stop polluting this thread with questions and read the first post where Terry states:
Please note that for any logs, bugs, concerns, problem reports, codes, etc, create a thread in the support section. Requests for assistance in this thread will be deleted without being read.
Either create a new thread or find a thread related to your question and post in it -- not this JB4 G5 Firmware sticky thread.
You're absolutely right. I've been out of the loop for some time and forgot the protocol. It won't happen again. Sorry.


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Guys, I'm going to install my RBs and want to install the Inlets at the same time. What's the best route to go so far. I see a lot of you have them. Big delay? Thanks! And by the way, I think Rob Beck might be offering them soon. If so, I might wait. Cheers and thanks! Larry
Inlet's are a must have these days. There are several threads on them. Vargas and MMS are the most popular and affordable ones. TFT makes a nice set but its very expensive.


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Default Testing 31-test.hex - 08-07-2015, 10:41 AM

Terry

I am testing out version G5_ISO_31_Test.hex

where would you say the OEM throttle sensitivity is?


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Default 08-07-2015, 10:45 AM

All previous are around 500rpm.


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Start with a 30 additive and log log log. Then post the csv and your mods into the support section to ask for help, not here.


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Default 08-07-2015, 02:30 PM

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OK coded it and did a little in house testing and it seems OK. Need a few testers though to verify its working under various situations. If you come across any issues grab a JB4 log of those and email them in.

The range on menu 11 right now is 0 = least sensitive and 5000 rpm = most sensitive. Based on feedback we can adjust the allowable range. ISO v30 firmware was set to an equivalent of 500rpm, for example. To start I tuned it such that 0 is about as dead and 5000 is about as aggressive as I'd ever want to personally run. This firmware also has a change to to improve oscillation and rattle at very low throttle where some have reported "wonkiness" so be sure to evaluate that as well.
Just loaded it up, going to test it now.


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Default 08-07-2015, 07:20 PM

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OK coded it and did a little in house testing and it seems OK. Need a few testers though to verify its working under various situations. If you come across any issues grab a JB4 log of those and email them in.

The range on menu 11 right now is 0 = least sensitive and 5000 rpm = most sensitive. Based on feedback we can adjust the allowable range. ISO v30 firmware was set to an equivalent of 500rpm, for example. To start I tuned it such that 0 is about as dead and 5000 is about as aggressive as I'd ever want to personally run. This firmware also has a change to to improve oscillation and rattle at very low throttle where some have reported "wonkiness" so be sure to evaluate that as well.
When I went to menu 11 (with JB4 running the test hex), it was on 0. Does that equate to no change\off?
I was expecting it to be on 500?


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Default 08-07-2015, 07:28 PM

Default will be at 0 for most as you've never changed this variable before. Raise it to 500 if you want it to match v30 mapping.


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Default 08-08-2015, 07:35 AM

Hey Terry, I'm getting intermittent 30ff codes. Car runs fine though.

Duty Bias all set to 0. DWP = 22. FUD = 0.

All vacuum lines except for the wastegate lines were replaced, boost solenoids were changed out, chargepipe upgraded to ER chargepipe. Same issues.

Could this be a problem in my settings?
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If you need tuning help post a log of the issue in the support area.


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Default 08-08-2015, 12:32 PM

Well the new update menu 11 seems to working, I just notice a big difference between 0 and 5k to be honest, maybe it's just me. Left it at 5k after playing with it for a while


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Default 08-08-2015, 03:37 PM

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Default will be at 0 for most as you've never changed this variable before. Raise it to 500 if you want it to match v30 mapping.
I thought that may be the case but wanted to check.

Thanks for confirming.


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Well the new update menu 11 seems to working, I just notice a big difference between 0 and 5k to be honest, maybe it's just me. Left it at 5k after playing with it for a while
It has been fixed low acceleration rattle load?


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Default 08-09-2015, 11:06 AM

I am loving menu 11.. it reminds me of the sprint booster days.

I was not able to to dial in the perfect settings without having to have menu 10 and 12 too high.

It almost masks any bit of turbo lag.. still there I know. But it hides it


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83 downloads but only 1 or 2 feedback? Yay or nay?


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Default 08-09-2015, 05:06 PM

Thanks for the test Terry! !
I tried a few settings,
5k was a bit much. At about 70% pedal I had 100% throttle.
I like 3k. It tricks you into thinking it's faster than it is.
Sorry I didn't get any good logs yet.
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Default 08-09-2015, 05:14 PM

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83 downloads but only 1 or 2 feedback? Yay or nay?
It's on my desktop, rain moved in, no dry roads till Tues

Thanks for the update though, looking forward to trying it and hoping my low rpm rattle is gone.. decel rattle is non-existant with fud 98


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Default 08-09-2015, 09:30 PM

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83 downloads but only 1 or 2 feedback? Yay or nay?
Hi Terry,
I have some logs from tonight with your new test.


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Default 08-09-2015, 09:44 PM

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Downloaded and set to 1k. Will give feedback after tomorrow's commute.
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