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Default Firmware for JB4 questions..... - 02-26-2012, 04:32 AM

I am new here but had a couple of quick questions? What is the new firmware update for the JB5 also do you have to reset the jb4 before installing the new update.

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Default 02-26-2012, 08:16 AM

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The under/over target comes in handy for checking for boost leaks, problems, etc. It's like the in dash gauges +-1psi but good enough for general use.

How do I set this? Speedo 4 and then tach what #?

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Default 02-26-2012, 03:05 PM

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No, it isn't... Go straight to map6 and enjoy!
I was talking about this with Terry today and he said stay in map 2, even if all you are missing is a FMIC.....I even asked if I could do a few runs in map 6...he said no.....

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Default 02-26-2012, 03:07 PM

lol almost no one should be using map 6.


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Default 02-27-2012, 12:23 AM

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lol almost no one should be using map 6.
OMG, I am been with map6 for a while...but frankly, I feel more torque in map 5 though......

I have DCI, *** and catback but no FMIC or Meth

Is it harmful Terry?


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Default 02-27-2012, 03:47 AM

Hi all,

Where can I get a detailed list of all the current JB4 settings and what they do? Trying to work from old stuff forwards with all the updates it kind of gets lost in the fog!

I want to make the throttle more linear, I could do this with the JB3, but can we with the JB4?


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Default 02-27-2012, 09:11 AM

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OMG, I am been with map6 for a while...but frankly, I feel more torque in map 5 though......

I have DCI, *** and catback but no FMIC or Meth

Is it harmful Terry?
Just stop using it, your timing is def ... Stick to map 5 or if your octane and mods support it, map2.

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Hi all,

Where can I get a detailed list of all the current JB4 settings and what they do? Trying to work from old stuff forwards with all the updates it kind of gets lost in the fog!

I want to make the throttle more linear, I could do this with the JB3, but can we with the JB4?


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Check out the first page of this thread.
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Default 02-27-2012, 10:09 AM

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Is it harmful Terry?
Yes, you could damage your motor running aggressive maps like that not meant for your mods/octane.


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Default 02-27-2012, 06:19 PM

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Yes, you could damage your motor running aggressive maps like that not meant for your mods/octane.
what kind of damage could happen ??
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Default 02-27-2012, 06:21 PM

Most likely you'll just get ignition glow and other nasty codes, and nothing bad will actually happen. But you could easily bust a ring land, blow a head gasket, melt a plug. That sort of stuff. Maps have suggested mods and octane requirements for a reason.


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Default 02-27-2012, 08:33 PM

FBO/CPS Map 6 WOOOO!!!!!



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Default 02-27-2012, 10:48 PM

is it better to run jb4 on map 5(i have ***,dci bms,intercooler) to get better gas or to run stage 0 ? (jb4 off) ?
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Default 02-27-2012, 11:05 PM

During low throttle they will be the same. But if you are accelerating a lot even slowly the map 0 could in theory get better mileage.


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Default 02-28-2012, 06:28 AM

Uploaded the new firmware from 2/7 last night. The car seems to run a little smoother at idle. I dont know why, but it just feels better to me. I have my boost gauge set up on fuel, and the oil with the new under/over boost option.

I noticed on the old 9/16 firmware that map 2 in my car was putting me at 15.5-16 psi (93 octane) sometimes as indicated on the in dash fuel gauge. I never got any codes when i scanned the car. This only seemed to happen when it was less than 40 degrees outside. I did some more testing after the 2/7 firmware was uploaded last night, and the in dash oil temp gauge was showing im overboosting by about 1.5 psi. It was less than 40degrees out again. So the new feature def seems to be working....now i wonder why im overboosting and if its safe lol. On another note, the car feels faster than its ever been on map 2.

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Default 02-28-2012, 10:03 AM

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Just stop using it, your timing is def ... Stick to map 5 or if your octane and mods support it, map2.



Check out the first page of this thread.
ok. Have switched back to map5 since my last post. Any reason that I feel more power on map 5 than map2? Should map 5 be more aggressive than 2? Tks


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Default 02-28-2012, 10:13 AM

guys i need to know how to set over/under boost target,what speedo what tach?
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Default 02-28-2012, 10:17 AM

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guys i need to know how to set over/under boost target,what speedo what tach?
I finally figured this out, it replaces the egt on fuel setting, Speedo 2, Tach 4.
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Default 02-28-2012, 10:21 AM

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I finally figured this out, it replaces the egt on fuel setting, Speedo 2, Tach 4.
thnx alot
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Default 02-28-2012, 10:23 AM

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ok. Have switched back to map5 since my last post. Any reason that I feel more power on map 5 than map2? Should map 5 be more aggressive than 2? Tks
If I had to guess i think it would be because its pulling some timing in map 2.
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If I had to guess i think it would be because its pulling some timing in map 2.
Very plausible

I saw map 5 making more torque whereas map 2 produced more HP.
I don't know why though. That was with the old firmware. Map 5 really vary with lots of factors like temperature, humidity, altitude, ...
Sometime the car felt stronger with map 1 than 5. I think the map 5 on the new firmware has been greatly improved.

So maybe the butt dyno felt the torque of map 5 when he first punched it.
But map 2 produced more HP, but HP is harder to "feel" imho.
Only speculation here
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Default 02-28-2012, 10:56 AM

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I finally figured this out, it replaces the egt on fuel setting, Speedo 2, Tach 4.
Did Terry forget to update the spreadsheet on the first page?
I also don't see the map 8 available on the sheet. Is it included in the new firmware or is it still beta?
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We will have to update the sheet once 2/7 leaves BETA.


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Is it published somewhere all FutureuseD?

Can use several FutureuseD?

That is, first to 99 and after to 100, doesn´t disable the previous?
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can someone elaborate more on this?

" Added a "rattle fix" option. To enable set FutureUseD=99. If rattle is not reduced then you require mechanical adjustment or replacement of the wastegate assemblies."

I have a that annoying rattle wastegate problem.
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can someone elaborate more on this?

" Added a "rattle fix" option. To enable set FutureUseD=99. If rattle is not reduced then you require mechanical adjustment or replacement of the wastegate assemblies."

I have a that annoying rattle wastegate problem.
IIRC, It closes the wastegates when you let off the throttle so that they dont make the rattle sound upon deceleration or upon the rpms dropping back down to idle.


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