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Default 04-06-2019, 01:39 PM

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Apparently not.
My android tablet doesnít support the app not sure why. I might need to use a friends android phone to be able to flash on Monday or so. I wish they had iPhone support it seems like 8 out of 10 people these days all have iPhones lol.


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My android tablet doesnít support the app not sure why. I might need to use a friends android phone to be able to flash on Monday or so. I wish they had iPhone support it seems like 8 out of 10 people these days all have iPhones lol.
There will be lots of map changes early on, you need a device that is compatible.


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How do you purchase this license or whatever you need to get. Do all the tunes go through you terry or mhd?
MHD charges $249 to unlock the VIN For flashing in their software. We don't charge for the map templates as we're already making money on the JB4.


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Apparently not.
Donít misunderstand me. If you use a PC it has to be running Android. Not windows, not a Mac, not Linux, not a chromebook.


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Donít misunderstand me. If you use a PC it has to be running Android. Not windows, not a Mac, not Linux, not a chromebook.
Oh like a boot loader like android x86, not sure why mhd doesnít have a program for windows I can understand iPhone cant read and write from usb connections like android can since iOS is locked down.
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Default 04-06-2019, 03:25 PM

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MHD charges $249 to unlock the VIN For flashing in their software. We don't charge for the map templates as we're already making money on the JB4.




I just need that cable. I just gotta swing by my friends house on Monday and use his brand spanking new android phone.


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Oh like a boot loader like android x86, not sure why mhd doesn’t have a program for windows I can understand iPhone cant read and write from usb connections like android can since iOS is locked down.
Limited development time, the Android app model makes it easy to collect money from customers, and the fact that you can by a compatible android device for ~$40.


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Default 04-06-2019, 04:19 PM

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Limited development time, the Android app model makes it easy to collect money from customers, and the fact that you can by a compatible android device for ~$40.
One last question terry I have the jb4 for my 2017 340. When I get the 2020 m340i will this jb4 work on it, and will I need to repurchase the back end flash.
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Default 04-06-2019, 04:46 PM

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Oh like a boot loader like android x86, not sure why mhd doesnít have a program for windows I can understand iPhone cant read and write from usb connections like android can since iOS is locked down.
Android-x86 is NOT a boot loader. Itís a fully fledged version of android, same as the one running on a Samsung or other device, but without the customizations the vendors make. It is complied directly from the AOSP which is where everyone else (including Google) contributes. The difference is some smart guys got it compiling on PCs instead of ARM devices. Have at it, it will work. Just get the right cable.


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Default Not MHD - 04-06-2019, 05:23 PM

Not an MHD flash but BM3 with JB4 logging, looks healthy, car pulls hard through the revs. Mods are sports c-a-t, panel filter, custom exhaust and BM3 stage 2. Running UK Shell V power fuel.
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Default 04-06-2019, 06:05 PM

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Not an MHD flash but BM3 with JB4 logging, looks healthy, car pulls hard through the revs. Mods are sports c-a-t, panel filter, custom exhaust and BM3 stage 2. Running UK Shell V power fuel.
Thanks. I'd prefer to keep all the B58 JB4 related flash stuff in the same thread. While we use and support MHD ultimately our maps should be compatible with any flashing solution.

It's interesting that you are under target here. Do you have the JB4 EWG connector?
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Default 04-06-2019, 06:07 PM

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One last question terry I have the jb4 for my 2017 340. When I get the 2020 m340i will this jb4 work on it, and will I need to repurchase the back end flash.
Terry Iím not sure if you missed this, or if anyone knows whether this is the case or not.
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Default 04-06-2019, 06:13 PM

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Thanks. I'd prefer to keep all the B58 JB4 related flash stuff in the same thread. While we use and support MHD ultimately our maps should be compatible with any flashing solution.

It's interesting that you are under target here. Do you have the JB4 EWG connector?
I did think boost seemed odd, especially as I was running 17 flat on JB4 map 6 previously. I have both FF and EWG add ons.
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Default 04-06-2019, 06:14 PM

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Terry Iím not sure if you missed this, or if anyone knows whether this is the case or not.
Depends if itís the same engine ?
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Depends if itís the same engine ?
I think the m340i uses a newer version of the b58 I know the flash wonít work but wondering if itís the case also with the jb4
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Default 04-06-2019, 06:34 PM

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I did think boost seemed odd, especially as I was running 17 flat on JB4 map 6 previously. I have both FF and EWG add ons.
Load the JB4 map in the first post, FUD.6 on, and log map2.


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Load the JB4 map in the first post, FUD.6 on, and log map2.
Map 2 on 1st page firmware, with FUD 6 on, 4th gear log, sitting nearer JB4 boost target now. May be one for BM3 to look into in regards to not hitting target.
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So far so good. Do a longer run with shifts now same map and settings, before we crank it up.


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Default 04-08-2019, 06:50 AM

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I did think boost seemed odd, especially as I was running 17 flat on JB4 map 6 previously. I have both FF and EWG add ons.
Check the BM3 threads on f30 etc. They are having issues with a number of cars running under target. They are iterating maps to try and solve the issue currently. Send them your logs if you haven't yet


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Check the BM3 threads on f30 etc. They are having issues with a number of cars running under target. They are iterating maps to try and solve the issue currently. Send them your logs if you haven't yet
Yeah Iím working with them atm on logs and test maps, hence why I havenít added a new log with the JB4, once the test maps are done with then Iíll get another JB4 log and go from there
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Default 04-08-2019, 11:25 AM

I just got my cable today. I should hopefully be flashed today or tomorrow i just need access to an android asap.


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Terry; Any plans for a dyno session soon? To see the difference the BEF makes compared to jb4 only?
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I just got my cable today. I should hopefully be flashed today or tomorrow i just need access to an android asap.
kindle fire tablet is cheap.. or, Android-x86 on your PC


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Default 04-08-2019, 03:21 PM

Hey Terry as mentioned in the first post uninstall the MHD flasher app. That was already done and downloaded the file from the link you provided, but the android device is stating that it cannot be open. Any thoughts?


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Default 04-08-2019, 04:17 PM

Never mind Terry got it squared off. Just need a BEF file.


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