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Default Triggering meth in map5? Meth gauge in app? - 05-20-2019, 11:27 AM

I have seen mention of changing meth trigger from 0 to 1 to allow meth to be used in maps other than 3 but no screen shot or further info. Which of these needs to be changed?

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************************************************** ************************
*Meth Safety Mode All Versions
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0 - Raise boost on map3 as a function of meth flow & historic timing (default)
1 - Raise boost on map3 as a function of meth flow only
2 - Start at normal target and failsafe IF flow drops below flow level
for 1 second under boost. Enabled for all maps.
3 - When on map3 meth flow is completely ignored. Useful for using
map3 as an adjustable non-meth map.
4 - Run a progressive meth safety on all maps

************************************************** ************************
*Meth Trigger Mode All Versions
************************************************** ************************

0 - Meth flows on maps 3, 6, and 7 (default operation)
1 - Meth flows on all maps
2 - Meth flows on map 3 only
3 - Meth is disabled on all maps


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Default 05-20-2019, 11:48 AM

Got a log so I can take a look at it? I deleted the other thread you made so we can stick with one.


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Default 05-20-2019, 12:20 PM

In the install for FSB it states

" when the system is operating normally you will see a WMI flow reading of 60% to
100%. It's normal for the flow reading to vary between 60-100% based on weather, fluid
injected, nozzle size, etc. Readings below 60% indicate a flow issue"

Where will these readings be visible? is this percentage scale above used in the log or the gauge in the app? In the app I dont get a reading and in the log I see a range from 1-4
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File Type: csv 2019-05-20 09_46_49_Map-5.csv (20.4 KB, 28 views)

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Default 05-20-2019, 06:04 PM

In deleted question I was asking if someone could help me figure out why I am not getting any read out on the meth gauge in the ap?

2015 f32 n55, I have the EWG harness, and bluetooth, Burger WMI with the latest JB4 ,3.5 tmap
EWG blue #16 Purple #9
FSB blue #14 Orange #3

MHD with jb4 BEF



In the logs for map 3 posted above I am getting values of 1-4 is this the scale for this column in the log?

I am sure its something simple I have missed. Any help appreciated Thanks Richard

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Default 05-21-2019, 07:20 AM

Here are a couple of more logs, Meth trigger mode = 1, Meth safety mode = 2

I see the meth signal in the log on map 3 but not on map 5 with the above settings
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File Type: csv 2019-05-21 09_50_21_Map-5.csv (12.8 KB, 28 views)
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Default 05-21-2019, 09:32 AM

I would assume meth isn't flowing properly as meth flow in JB4 log should be 60+ under flow. Does it spray cleanly out of the nozzle when purging?


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Default 05-21-2019, 09:39 AM

It does spray out vigorously when I hit purge when set on map 3 , it also is flowing when at WOT on map3 but cant get it to flow via purge or WOT runs on Map 5 ,

Meth trigger mode = 1, Meth safety mode = 2
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Default 05-21-2019, 10:03 AM

Here are two more logs on map5, one meth trig=0 the other meth trig=1 Ill pull the nozzle again and make sure Im still getting a good flow when I hit purge while on map3
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Default 05-22-2019, 04:44 PM

Figured it out,I deviated from the instal instructions.

I looked at the DC pump I bought from you, saw the 2 amp rating on the FSB, and used a bosch relay for the pump , triggering the relay with the yellow output from the FSB. I am guessing the FSB is changing pump speed by voltage or pwm and since I am using it to trigger a relay im not getting proper feedback in the logs and gauge in app.
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Default 05-23-2019, 05:44 AM

Just so I understand completely, its OK to hook this 10 amp DC pump motor directly to the FSB which has a 2 amp rating ?
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Just so I understand completely, its OK to hook this 10 amp DC pump motor directly to the FSB which has a 2 amp rating ?
The FSB primary MOSFET can carry around 15amps without issue. Not sure where you are getting 2 amps from. Maybe you're referring to the solenoid circuit?


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