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Default Shift Sector 4/6 - 04-06-2013, 04:55 PM

Hey guys,

Had a blast at shift sector today. The event was nicely organized and it was great hanging out with everyone Friday night and today. Shiv wasn't there today but finally got to meet Tony Vargas and check out the VT3 kit. It looks sweet. Can't wait to get mine going.

I took our 135i out to race which ran perfectly at the NoFlyZone event but unfortunately today it started acting up. The trans started goofing up in 5th letting the RPMs fly. I tried a few things via the software but they didn't help. Then the last run I did it happened again but finally broke something internally. Engine sounds like a sewing machine and plug 5 has some oil on it. Probably broke off a bit of the piston and the valve ate it. Limped it 120 miles towards home and I'm taking a dinner break right now. Not looking forward to limping up the grade. May tow it from here. On the plus side I wanted to build it up for the VT3s anyway.

*Update* Found a used N54 long block on eBay for $3000 and will throw that in so I can still play with the car while VAC builds up the motor. Likely going to do their 9.3:1 forged pistons, rods, and ported cylinder head. Hopefully ready to run with the big boys next event.

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Default 04-06-2013, 05:02 PM

Sad news But on to bigger and better things with the vehicle!


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Default 04-06-2013, 05:29 PM

how many miles on it?
r u gonna upgrade the transmission from level10, they said it can handle 700rwhp
i think u need to change the rods also
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Default 04-06-2013, 05:35 PM

Around 40k on it. Lots of hard runs to 160mph @ 500rw+. Hundreds of dyno and track runs. But I have a feeling if the trans was not unlocking shooting the RPMs past redline the engine would still be fine. @ 20psi + 11 degrees peak advance on race gas + E85 + meth its aggressive but nothing too crazy. Maybe 19psi + 10 degrees is a little safer bet.


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Default 04-06-2013, 05:39 PM

Sucks to hear, now we can see what some internals can unlock power wise!


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Default 04-06-2013, 07:03 PM

Sorry to hear. But I'm sure it'll be worth it in the end.


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Default 04-06-2013, 07:15 PM

Sorry to hear T!

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Around 40k on it. Lots of hard runs to 160mph @ 500rw+. Hundreds of dyno and track runs. But I have a feeling if the trans was not unlocking shooting the RPMs past redline the engine would still be fine. @ 20psi + 11 degrees peak advance on race gas + E85 + meth its aggressive but nothing too crazy. Maybe 19psi + 10 degrees is a little safer bet.
What was the max rpm that you logged?


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Cool 04-06-2013, 08:10 PM

Bummer.....been there.... done that.


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Bummer.....been there.... done that.
I have a feeling it's going to look exactly like yours did inside.


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Sorry to hear T!

What was the max rpm that you logged?
It went off the logging scale ( > 7000rpm) I was using each time it unloaded. I think I saw 7300-7400 but of course the throttle closes. Maybe what is happening is a lean spike in the hole as the throttle closes suddenly under 20psi boost pressure. In retrospect after the first time it over revved I probably should have called it quits for the day.


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Default 04-06-2013, 09:03 PM

Terry - PLEASE post a ton of pictures of the tear down and internals. I don't know that I've ever seen the N54 torn down, and certainly not JB4'd at your mileage.


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Default 04-06-2013, 09:07 PM

Better to blow it this way than blow it from power. This way you save the block at least. Power failures can be a little more dramatic.

So I presume you'll be getting the larger turbos now :-)
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Better to blow it this way than blow it from power. This way you save the block at least. Power failures can be a little more dramatic.

So I presume you'll be getting the larger turbos now :-)
We have to drop the motor to install the larger turbos anyway, so was planning on doing the short block at the same time. This is technically worse though because now I have to deal with the head also. May just get it ported, etc, while its apart. Just sorry I didn't get any clean runs today. Was pulling on a mid 10 second mustang @ 140mph when it crapped out during one of the races and he zoomed right on by.


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Default 04-06-2013, 09:35 PM

Port it!! There are many places that could open it up some, make the high rpm's a bit more appealing. And that auto trans even less...

I know the flow sucks, is it even close to 80% on the exhaust side? If it is, it's super low still.
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Default 04-06-2013, 10:11 PM

Just my two cents.

The event was great! Lots of great cars and a variety to choose from. My car ran great with zero issues. Thanks again to Terry for checking my meth nozzles, reviewing my JB4 logs, and always creating a safety net for us.

Serge's car (Sick335) was running great as well. He took down a supercharged Mustang. I will post up the video of that soon.

Highlight of the day for me was meeting Tony from Vargas Turbos. I was not expecting him to be there so it was a pleasant surprise. It as assuring to see Vargas out there on race day even they were not racing. They showed up to meet the guys and show the Stage 3 335i. I couldn't help but ask for a ride down the street. Lets just say it was

It is a very clean set up!!!!!
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Default 04-06-2013, 11:27 PM

The trans solution is going to be a difficult priority to sort out....short of going with a 6M car.


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Damn...sorry to hear about the car troubles looking forward to the build though then I'll continue to live vicariously through the BMS 135



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Default 04-07-2013, 04:48 AM

Hi Terry.

Is the 135i your N55 DCT car? Just ordered your JB4 Stage 2 for my 335i DCT. Hope it's not going to break anything

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Is the 135i your N55 DCT car? Just ordered your JB4 Stage 2 for my 335i DCT. Hope it's not going to break anything

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Is the 135i your N55 DCT car? Just ordered your JB4 Stage 2 for my 335i DCT. Hope it's not going to break anything

It's a 2008 135 steptronic. Unless you are planning on running 500+whp with a larger turbo and racing to 160mph over and over again you probably should be OK.


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Terry I don't know if it matters much on 40k miles but have you swapped out trans fluid in that time?


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It's a 2008 135 steptronic. Unless you are planning on running 500+whp with a larger turbo and racing to 160mph over and over again you probably should be OK.


Ok. Now I'm looking like a fool . I don't read here very often tbh (I'm from Germany) - now I know that you have two 135i :-).

How is your 135i holding up?
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Ok. Now I'm looking like a fool . I don't read here very often tbh (I'm from Germany) - now I know that you have two 135i :-).

How is your 135i holding up?
my car is n54, 135idct just a user name, still on stock turbos
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Default 04-07-2013, 06:56 PM

Terry, can u make sure you tell us if your stock pistons are casted or forged.... many of us are still believed there might be forged pistons out there between 07-08 build n54.


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