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Default Ineos Grenadier - new B58 & dual solid axle 4WD - 04-29-2022, 10:58 AM

Hi all, I have been watching the Ineos Grenadier take shape (think an independently-financed and built spiritual successor of the Defender 110) and for gas engine trucks, they will have the ubiquitous B58. More info here -

INEOS Grenadier Goes On Sale In May With BMW B57 And B58 Engines

Originally Posted by “BMW Blog”
BMW Engines, ZF Gearbox, 4WD
The tough SUV will be going on sale in select markets from May 18 with straight-six 3.0-liter BMW engines. The oil-burner makes 245 hp & 406 lb-ft (550 Nm) while the gas unit has 281 hp & 332 lb-ft (450 Nm). Both are mated to an eight-speed automatic transmission from ZF sending power to all four wheels. Go for the B58 engine and the Grenadier will do 0 to 62 mph (100 km/h) in 8.6 seconds. The B57-powered variant takes 9.9 seconds. Regardless of the powertrain, the ladder-frame SUV is electronically capped at 100 mph (161 km/h).
I think they’re a really promising platform for anyone looking for a go-anywhere SUV that’s larger than a Jeep Wrangler… F&R solid axles made by an Italian company, Carraro Group, that primarily makes axles for agricultural & construction equipment (and yes all ‘agricultural’ jokes likely deserved haha although early reviews indicate they ride quite nicely for what they are.)

The Grenadier is being built in a very modern roboticized former Mercedes plant on the France-Germany border, ZF 8 speed auto, some of the chassis design & engineering work performed by Magna Steyr, 7700? lb tow rating, etc etc. So long as build quality & QA come through, I think it will be a blast.

While I get that the factory tune these trucks will get delivered with will both be conservative and tuned for low-end torque delivery, I’m very curious what might be possible by way of a JB4 on top.

Has anyone looked into JB4 support for these trucks? (I searched first but didn’t find anything.) I have a reservation-to-preorder one of these trucks, and am really keen to wake it up once it’s in my possession.
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Default 04-29-2022, 01:04 PM

Interesting, I'm sure we'll be able to tune them!

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Default 04-29-2022, 01:46 PM

Should be able to tune the hell out of them. 281hp only, with 332ft/lb? Tells me they're not letting it rev, which is limiting boost. First thing I'd do would be to put a better DME in there to bump the rev limiter and boost. Then tune it from there. No sense in trying to piggyback a handicapped DME.

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