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Default 11-16-2013, 10:20 AM

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In fact, you need the gs19d.ipo file just to establish the communication between INPA and the Trans Control Unit.
I haven't tried to flash the TCU with winkfp until I had this INPA file, because I wanted to know my actual flash ZB number.
I wasn't able to reset gearbox adaptation, because I wasn't able to open the INPA gearbox menu.

After I had this file, I was able to upload anyone of the flash included with winkfp and to reset the gearbox adaptation with INPA, which is very important after each flash.
So even if the TCU flash is standard one it came with (unchanged from new), you cannot reset using INPA? I did not know this, I only tried to reset after I had already flashed the Alpina with Winkfp using Cn555's tutorial. There is a GS19 (no D) file there already in the daten folders that INPA was trying to use. Like you said it would not even go into the gearbox menu.
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Default 11-16-2013, 12:58 PM

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There is a GS19 (no D) file there already in the daten folders that INPA was trying to use.
Same here. The other GS19 file I have is the GS19.ini.

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Default 11-16-2013, 01:36 PM

Maybe the D is for diagnostic?
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Default 11-16-2013, 08:14 PM

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Maybe the D is for diagnostic?
I think D is for "Don't even think about it".
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Default 11-17-2013, 02:41 AM

No, the gs19d version of the TCU is included in the GS19.ipo file.


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Default 11-17-2013, 04:57 AM

Not sure what you are saying here.

GS19D.ipo was not included anywhere in the correct set of daten files used to flash the Alpina TCU. So using that daten set (and putting eveything in the proper folders) you could flash but not reset it trough INPA. The GS19D.ipo file had to be acquired elsewhere and then included into the right folders for INPA to allow the reset.

Anyway the point is I do not think many people who have the flash, either done it themselves or by a coder, have ever reset the adaptations. And then if that is true I was wondering if the two new files discussed here also have this issue of needing another .ipo file to reset internal adaptations via INPA.
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Default 11-17-2013, 12:17 PM

You misunderstood me.
No relation between flashing the TCU (with winkfp) and resetting gearbox adaptations (with INPA.

I used INPA to read the actual version of the flash in the TCU, and to reset the gearbox adaptions.
In order to use INPA to do so, you need to replace the original GS19.ipo (which don't contain all the information to comunicate with the TCU module) by the GS19.ipo file I've previously linked in this thread, and it will work.

You can use winkfp to flash the TCU but it won't reset the adaptations.
Only INPA can do so (gearbox menu->F6 activate-> reset).


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Default 11-17-2013, 01:57 PM

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You misunderstood me.
No relation between flashing the TCU (with winkfp) and resetting gearbox adaptations (with INPA.

I used INPA to read the actual version of the flash in the TCU, and to reset the gearbox adaptions.
In order to use INPA to do so, you need to replace the original GS19.ipo (which don't contain all the information to comunicate with the TCU module) by the GS19.ipo file I've previously linked in this thread, and it will work.

You can use winkfp to flash the TCU but it won't reset the adaptations.
Only INPA can do so (gearbox menu->F6 activate-> reset).
Yes I understand the first part about Winkfp vs INPA. But you seem to be saying you've reset Alpina flash without using GS19d.ipo. The only way that could happen is if the GS19.ipo you have is a newer more inclusive version than the one included in the original daten files we all used to flash the Alpina file. Is that what you're saying?

Then if the answer is yes, the next question is, is that Gs19 file all you need to reset the two new flashes being discussed here? I should try it but I don't want to reset my current Alpina adaptations or flash over it with another file yet. But I would like to know in case I want to at some point, and I'm sure others would like to know too.
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Default 11-17-2013, 02:32 PM

It seems the file GS19.ipo (315KB) gets rid of the message as you stated. However, you get the message below when accessing the transmission menu.

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Default 11-17-2013, 02:45 PM

What is the date on the GS19.ipo file you have? Just in the directory next to the filename. Mine was very old and the GS19D.ipo was much newer. I assumed it was special for the Alpina but maybe not.

I did get a lot weird errors through the reset, but nothing that would not allow me to continue, and nothing like what you have above. Before adding the GS19D.ipo, could not even enter the TCU menu as it did not recognize the Alpina flash.
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Default 11-17-2013, 02:50 PM

Without the file I got this message.

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Default 11-17-2013, 02:58 PM

Yeah that looks like the error I got before I put Gs19D.ipo in the right INPA folder.
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Default 11-17-2013, 03:01 PM

I have still yet to find the GS19D.IPO file!
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Default 11-17-2013, 03:05 PM

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I have still yet to find the GS19D.IPO file!
Somebody recently posted it up over on BB, let me know if you want a link. I think the links treblia posted above are to the discussion where same topic was brought up.

it is also out floating around on the internet for download, which is where I got it last spring.

edit: yeah look at post 47 in this thread we're in now.
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Default 11-17-2013, 03:21 PM

I have that file. There is a reference being made to a file "GS19D.IPO". It seems that there isn't one specifically, but embedded within the "GS19.IPO" file. This one shown below. You will not be able to find a file named "GS19D.IPO" if you are looking for one.

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Default 11-17-2013, 03:41 PM

No there is an actual GS19D.IPO file, I copied it into the correct INPA subfolder and that got reset to work on Alpina. This is all on my laptop that I do not have access to right now.

Let me see if I can find the thread over on bimmerboost where someone posted up the actual file.
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Default 11-17-2013, 03:55 PM

OK I found the file GS19D.IPO on my desktop but I can't put it here as an attachment for some reason. PM me an email address and I'll send it to you.

This is the file I pulled off the net back in February or thereabouts, and loaded it into INPA in order to reset adaptations on the Alpina flash.
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Default 11-17-2013, 04:37 PM

There is no gs19d.ipo file.
Only a new gs19.ipo file which include all gs19 version (a, b, c & d).


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Default 11-17-2013, 04:40 PM

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There is no gs19d.ipo file.
Only a new gs19.ipo file which include all gs19 version (a, b, c & d).
Exactly! I was able to successfully reset adaptations.
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There is no gs19d.ipo file.
Only a new gs19.ipo file which include all gs19 version (a, b, c & d).
I am looking at a gs19d.ipo file. It exists and I used it. It may have been superseded but it exists. It may also be that older versions of INPA or its subordinate files cannot talk to the newer GS19 that you refer to. All I know is my version worked with gs19d.ipo
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Default 11-17-2013, 04:42 PM

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Exactly! I was able to successfully reset adaptations.
Whew! Now if someone can verify this new version gs19 resets on ALL the possible TCU flashes this would be good general knowledge.
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Default 11-19-2013, 03:20 AM

I've called ZF technical service, and they say that after each hard reset of adaptations, the gearbox module need few cycles of 30 miles at least, with a gearbox oil temperature of at least 175F, to start modifying the adaptations values for the best behaviour.

that's why they advice not to reset adaptations, expect if you have a bad behaviour after a TCU flash...


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Default 11-19-2013, 05:29 AM

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I've called ZF technical service, and they say that after each hard reset of adaptations, the gearbox module need few cycles of 30 miles at least, with a gearbox oil temperature of at least 175F, to start modifying the adaptations values for the best behaviour.

that's why they advice not to reset adaptations, expect if you have a bad behaviour after a TCU flash...
Good to know. Now maybe call them back and ask for encryption key to the TCU software?
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Default 11-26-2013, 03:54 PM

So my car is a 2011 335xi, would I already have the 2011 flash?
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