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Default 07-23-2018, 05:23 PM

Hey guys,

Hit the dyno today for a little tuning on our JB4 Stinger! Car is all stock except for Denso 5346 plugs gapped at 0.022", ~93 octane fuel, around 450 miles on the clock.

We're running a Stinger JB4 system on v3 firmware with the JB4 Mobile kit for wireless logging to my phone.

First up was a few baseline runs, the highest of which was 327whp all stock. I've seen cars make a few more HP stock but it was pretty hot today. Doing a same day baseline is always critical for evaluating tuned runs to come. Weather, dyno variance, correction factors, etc, can easily lead to 10-15whp one way or the other.

Next up a series of tuned runs. Map1 resulted in 356whp, map2 resulted in 382whp. More or less as expected. Logs of the runs are below and you can see the boost differences of stock vs. map1 vs. map2, as well as an overall healthy timing profile not showing any indication of knock.

Here are where things got interesting. I turned on the new JB4 fuel control to lean the air/fuel ratio out at higher RPM, and immediately power shot up. See comparison dynos below but going from 10:1 to 11:1 resulted in gains of ~60whp in certain areas! Crazy!

I have a little more fine tuning to do on the fuel control before we release it but next up is a round of E85 testing and dyno runs. And hopefully, cooler weather!

Also on the torque we found there is a lot more on tap when we're ready for it. 495wtq was just scratching the surface.

PS. While the car was strapped down I did a run on valet map4, which runs around half the boost of stock. Definitely makes your 3.3L run like a 2L, lol.

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Default 07-23-2018, 06:54 PM

This is great news terry. How much more r&d will you do before releasing v3? What wiring harness will we need?
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Default 07-23-2018, 06:59 PM

See my post on the previous page about the 2 extra wires needed for fuel control. Probably $30 upgrade kit as we have to solder a resistor in to one of the wires, crimp on pins, etc. Install will be really easy we'll make a video guide.


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Default 07-24-2018, 08:23 AM

Awesome work Terry! Some e85 and leaning it out another half point. I think you should be able to get another 30-40whp from it. The car makes power all the way till redline!


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Default 07-24-2018, 11:14 AM

Im very excited for the new tunes coming! But Im a little lost... we need extra wiring? Fuel control? Or will I be able to just upload these new tunes when they come out and put them right into the car?
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Default 07-24-2018, 11:15 AM

The fuel control is an add on JB4 function that involves adding 2 wires to the JB4 harness and attaching them to the o2 sensor signals using removable posi-taps: http://www.n54tech.com/forums/showpo...&postcount=262

Not going to be for everyone but for those who want maximum power, clear tuning benefits.


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Default 07-24-2018, 11:19 AM

This is awesome. Keep up the amazing work and I'll definitely be on board for better fuel control.
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Default 07-24-2018, 11:21 AM

So is there going to be another firmware update and which wire to tap into?
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Default 07-24-2018, 11:22 AM

Awesome! Are they on site? Or are we still waiting for those
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Default 07-24-2018, 11:26 AM

The v3 firmware will have the fuel control built in which is activated by changing some settings & adding the new wires once you get them. After a little more testing we'll get the wires on the site and post the v3 firmware.


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Default 07-24-2018, 11:29 AM

Perfect! I’ll continue to run map 2 in the meantime!
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Can we email you to get the wire or we have to buy

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Default 07-24-2018, 02:34 PM

Will post when ready to distribute some!


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Default 07-24-2018, 04:16 PM

I am ready.. willing.... able.... lol

Bring it on!!!

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Quick video on how to gap the plugs.



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Now i want a stinger! Amazing stuff.


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Default 07-27-2018, 01:31 PM

Video of the upcoming JB4 fuel wire upgrade install.



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When can we get the kit?
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Default 07-27-2018, 11:06 PM

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When can we get the kit?
Should have them on our site Monday


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Ok do we need to buy it for add on? Or do we email you about getting it?
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Default 07-27-2018, 11:14 PM

The optional Fuel Control add on will be around $30+shipping.


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Hey Terry,

Has V3 been finalized and ran through the paces on the Dyno? I know you had some initial numbers posted above but also mentioned doing the finished polishing..

Also, what is next on the JB4 implementation post this fuel control?

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Default 07-28-2018, 07:57 AM

Couple more things I want to look at on the firmware but should be ready Monday as well, when we put the fuel wires on the site.

In terms of what's next we have a few things we're working on. We'll see where it goes.


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