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Default 04-29-2015, 07:04 AM

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You can either use the JB4 with a solid map (7) + e85 backend, or set the JB4 as passive (option B) and use the stand alone MHD e85 mix map. Neither require the purchase of increased boost ceiling, which is solely needed when self tuning BINs.


1. Is you make an ECU backup with MHD, the file will automatically be used when flashing back to stock.
2. If you use directly the canned bins, on a euro car you will get the DMTL error as far as I know. There's a solution I need to talk with Terry (use .mhd maps instead of bins, and apply tuning parameters on top of a correct map for each car).
3. Flashing process is the same, there are a few minor differences between maps.


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See above. After driving a bit, did the trans went back to normal behavior?
Yes, it got a lot better. It's more smooth now at any rated rpm. Thanks.
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Default 04-29-2015, 07:28 AM

Terry, is there any benefit running your E85 MHD flash instead of running your E85 BB flash?


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Default 04-29-2015, 08:42 AM

Just a quick run with the new MHD flash.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GMeLoi0PTE


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Default 04-29-2015, 01:10 PM

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1. Terry made MHD specific maps, and they are improved upon the BB.com maps. JB4 stays in charge of handling the boost, not the DME flash. But MHD allows better backends though more tuning options.
2. e85 flash is for minimum 50% mix (e40). For race gas, use the race flash because AFR / Fuel scalar from the e85 map are not suited for race gas.
Thanks for the replies!

Do you know which is more powerful? I have access to E85 all the time, but can get 110 octane race gas on the way to the 1/4 drag strip. If the Race map is faster, I have no problem using that when I want maximum power.


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Default 04-29-2015, 01:35 PM

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Thanks for the replies!

Do you know which is more powerful? I have access to E85 all the time, but can get 110 octane race gas on the way to the 1/4 drag strip. If the Race map is faster, I have no problem using that when I want maximum power.
Since you have stage 1 lpfp there's no need to run race gas. Stick with E60 and the E85 flash. Besides the 110 you speak of is most likely not unleaded. The E85 flash has more timing and is the most aggressive flash BMS offers (for stock turbo's).
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Default Euro bins - 04-29-2015, 02:46 PM

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It works, but throws an error code. Plenty of Euro owners (me included) flashed US canned bins, it's no big deal.
I am no tuner so my experience is from the feel of the car, when flashing the previous canned BMS flashes via bimmerboost app on euro spec dme there are some distinct differences noticeable....

The car idles slightly higher,
Start up isn't as crisp,
Fuel consumption was terrible,
Dtml errors were always present,

To differentiate I got a tuner to take my stock bin and transpose the changes from the BMS flash into my stock file and the car returned to its normal self with all the performance boost that the BMS file had to offer.

I would strongly suggest offering euro spec versions of the BMS flashes and MHD flashes for customers purchasing your software. I have both ijeos and i8aos euro versions I can mail you for development and testing.


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Default 04-29-2015, 03:15 PM

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It works, but throws an error code. Plenty of Euro owners (me included) flashed US canned bins, it's no big deal.
I'm really looking and interested into having more power, I was thinking about the BB flash for a while but the MHD looks easier and direct for me to make this step,,, but I'm concerned about those errors you mentioned and I don't like seeing errors to pop up and keep my ECU unnecessary throwing errors codes

I would really like to do it the right way and have the right flash for the euro specs instead of US.

Is there any near plan or possibility to have it error free for euro specs cars? I want to flash my car and my friend car, not sure if it need to be done by Terry or MHD but should be a solution for us running euro specs ECU.


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Default 04-29-2015, 03:17 PM

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I am no tuner so my experience is from the feel of the car, when flashing the previous canned BMS flashes via bimmerboost app on euro spec dme there are some distinct differences noticeable....

The car idles slightly higher,
Start up isn't as crisp,
Fuel consumption was terrible,
Dtml errors were always present,

To differentiate I got a tuner to take my stock bin and transpose the changes from the BMS flash into my stock file and the car returned to its normal self with all the performance boost that the BMS file had to offer.

I would strongly suggest offering euro spec versions of the BMS flashes and MHD flashes for customers purchasing your software. I have both ijeos and i8aos euro versions I can mail you for development and testing.
+1 , I want to flash my car and my friend car and I prefer to do it the right way for our EU and avoid error codes for sure


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Default 04-29-2015, 09:44 PM

Anyone that's run both, how does the mhd e40 map compare to the Cobb e30 map?
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Default 04-29-2015, 11:13 PM

Sorry if this was answered already, did a search and didnt see much.

Are people leaving their K+DCAN cables plugged into the OBDII port in order to log? Not sure I see myself doing that as its in a very awkward position.

I have a JB4 with the USB so logging on that is fine but wouldnt mind trying out the MHD application as I dont always have my laptop in my car. I realize there is an unofficial JB4 android app but not really interested in buying two separate apps to do similar things
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Default 04-29-2015, 11:18 PM

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I am no tuner so my experience is from the feel of the car, when flashing the previous canned BMS flashes via bimmerboost app on euro spec dme there are some distinct differences noticeable....

The car idles slightly higher,
Start up isn't as crisp,
Fuel consumption was terrible,
Dtml errors were always present,

To differentiate I got a tuner to take my stock bin and transpose the changes from the BMS flash into my stock file and the car returned to its normal self with all the performance boost that the BMS file had to offer.

I would strongly suggest offering euro spec versions of the BMS flashes and MHD flashes for customers purchasing your software. I have both ijeos and i8aos euro versions I can mail you for development and testing.
I agree, our cars in South Africa are closest to UK spec so I will most likely have similar issues too...
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Default 04-29-2015, 11:46 PM

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I am no tuner so my experience is from the feel of the car, when flashing the previous canned BMS flashes via bimmerboost app on euro spec dme there are some distinct differences noticeable....

The car idles slightly higher,
Start up isn't as crisp,
Fuel consumption was terrible,
Dtml errors were always present,

To differentiate I got a tuner to take my stock bin and transpose the changes from the BMS flash into my stock file and the car returned to its normal self with all the performance boost that the BMS file had to offer.

I would strongly suggest offering euro spec versions of the BMS flashes and MHD flashes for customers purchasing your software. I have both ijeos and i8aos euro versions I can mail you for development and testing.

Thanks for sharing this experience...

This was also my concern and i experienced issues when i flashed the BMS BB maps back when i was trying them, so just moved to Cobb instead (with no problems)..

This really needs to be addressed, I'm IJE0S from Australia.
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Default 04-30-2015, 01:20 AM

So there is many of us with same concer for non US specs,

I don't mind to contribute or donate or even pay extra for this option if needs more effort, it just better than seeing errors and keeping my fingers crossed of which error may show for not being US specs.

So what can be done here?


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Default 04-30-2015, 01:38 AM

+1. Same issues experienced as Kish and the rest of you regarding flashing the US file, i.e. worse fuel consumption and higher startup idle (regardless of engine temp).

I can also confirm moving the changes from the BMS BIN to a Euro file fixes these. I can handle doing this, but it's just a pain having to redo all of the BIN's everytime an update is released.


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Default 04-30-2015, 08:39 AM

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I am no tuner so my experience is from the feel of the car, when flashing the previous canned BMS flashes via bimmerboost app on euro spec dme there are some distinct differences noticeable....

The car idles slightly higher,
Start up isn't as crisp,
Fuel consumption was terrible,
Dtml errors were always present,

To differentiate I got a tuner to take my stock bin and transpose the changes from the BMS flash into my stock file and the car returned to its normal self with all the performance boost that the BMS file had to offer.

I would strongly suggest offering euro spec versions of the BMS flashes and MHD flashes for customers purchasing your software. I have both ijeos and i8aos euro versions I can mail you for development and testing.
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Default 04-30-2015, 10:31 AM

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I am no tuner so my experience is from the feel of the car, when flashing the previous canned BMS flashes via bimmerboost app on euro spec dme there are some distinct differences noticeable....

The car idles slightly higher,
Start up isn't as crisp,
Fuel consumption was terrible,
Dtml errors were always present,

To differentiate I got a tuner to take my stock bin and transpose the changes from the BMS flash into my stock file and the car returned to its normal self with all the performance boost that the BMS file had to offer.

I would strongly suggest offering euro spec versions of the BMS flashes and MHD flashes for customers purchasing your software. I have both ijeos and i8aos euro versions I can mail you for development and testing.
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I can also confirm moving the changes from the BMS BIN to a Euro file fixes these. I can handle doing this, but it's just a pain having to redo all of the BIN's everytime an update is released.
Can someone please please please make a video on how to do this. I have to pay a guy $20 to do this everytime for BMS flashes. My cruise control and alpina flash never works with BMS flashes unless this is done. Thanks.


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Martial has already raised this with Terry, However Terry either has no time, or refuses to see that there are differences between US and EU bin files... However we are all proof to this and can confirm this.
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Just bought the app and all the features. Tried to flash jb4 backend flash kept getting CEL and 3100 boost pressure code after i turn on the car for 20 seconds and it did not drive normal. Purchased the stage 2 flash only maps and had the same issue.

using this cable and GS5 http://www.one-stop-electronics.com/...&product_id=16
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Just bought the app and all the features. Tried to flash jb4 backend flash kept getting CEL and 3100 boost pressure code after i turn on the car for 20 seconds and it did not drive normal. Purchased the stage 2 flash only maps and had the same issue.

using this cable and GS5 http://www.one-stop-electronics.com/...&product_id=16
you need to set 4/2 in the jb4 menu
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it was on 4/2 but i guess i will retry
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same result on multiple flashes....could it be the cable or the phone? i reflashed back through BB flash for now.
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Default 05-01-2015, 04:18 PM

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Martial has already raised this with Terry, However Terry either has no time, or refuses to see that there are differences between US and EU bin files... However we are all proof to this and can confirm this.
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Default 05-01-2015, 07:44 PM

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Can someone please please please make a video on how to do this. I have to pay a guy $20 to do this everytime for BMS flashes. My cruise control and alpina flash never works with BMS flashes unless this is done. Thanks.
http://www.procedetuning.com/BMW/n54...als/index.html

part 4 show you how to copy the bin, just make sure you have the right xdf.
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Default 05-01-2015, 11:17 PM

I've searched but can't find what maps would be best to use for different situations. Can only the back end maps be used with jb4 or can any maps be used with it? How are the back end maps different from the other?


I currently have an 07 n54 *********, charge *****, Bob,dci and jb4. What would be the best map to run with my set up and why?



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