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Default 04-22-2015, 09:28 AM

We set the software such that 0 and 50 both provide an unaltered FF curve at that RPM.


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Default 04-22-2015, 09:45 AM

Are the afr bias settings in the default required if a flash is being used?



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Default 04-22-2015, 09:45 AM

should vtt stage 2+ users with inlets be using the newest released firmware or should we be asking for something custom to be sent to us?
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Default 04-22-2015, 11:24 AM

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We set the software such that 0 and 50 both provide an unaltered FF curve at that RPM.
Understood !
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Default When to move from Map 1? - 04-23-2015, 04:59 PM

2010 e92 6MT 38K miles. Owned the car for 1.5yrs now. My first upgrade as soon as I got it was a DCI and JB4. Since then I've gone FBO (Wagner IC, ******* ***, Corsa TrackSport exhaust, charge pipe, TiAL BOV, (no meth)). I've been running Map 1 since day one. Is there ever a time or condition to change to Map 5, pending that I'm still on pump gas? Or only with meth or e85?

I'm sure this has been discussed here before, but I'm finding it hard to get a definitive answer searching the threads. Thanks for the input in advance.
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Default 04-23-2015, 07:34 PM

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Are the afr bias settings in the default required if a flash is being used?

Pretty sure AFRs should stay at 0 even with the latest firmware if you are running a backend flash. The dme is still controlling the fueling. I updated firmware and left AFRs at 0 with my pump flash and everything seems good and strong.


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Default 04-24-2015, 12:18 AM

Hi, all my AFR BAIS values are sett to 0 is that normal/okey?
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Default 04-24-2015, 12:39 AM

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Hi, all my AFR BAIS values are sett to 0 is that normal/okey?
It depends:

If you are running the latest firmware, without any backend flash, then set them as per the image on Page 1.

If you are running the latest firmware along with a backend flash, then set them all to 0.
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Default 04-24-2015, 04:49 AM

Thanks, Im running the backend flash so then everything is okey.
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Default 04-24-2015, 05:57 PM

You can use map 5 on pump fuels, although it tends to do best with some E85 or race gas mixed in.


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Default 04-25-2015, 12:23 AM

Hi Terry where is the last firmware non-intergrated?


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Default 04-26-2015, 07:54 PM

just curious terry what do you have your open fuel loop set to with the PI and full e85


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Default 04-26-2015, 09:12 PM

With PI it's set to 0.


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Default 04-26-2015, 10:05 PM

hey Terry, noob question, otherwise stock n54 here with dinan s1 flash, dci, CP and jb4 g5 iso on 91 oct. Most appropriate setup is Map1 4/2, correct? Also, any addt'l user adjust settings you recommend? hoping to log asap. thanks!
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Default 04-27-2015, 04:54 AM

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hey Terry, noob question, otherwise stock n54 here with dinan s1 flash, dci, CP and jb4 g5 iso on 91 oct. Most appropriate setup is Map1 4/2, correct? Also, any addt'l user adjust settings you recommend? hoping to log asap. thanks!

Map 1 or Map 5.
Log and post in the support section for user adjust settings advices.


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Default 04-28-2015, 05:21 AM

For the past few weeks, I've been using Map 5 without an issue. Map 5 is giving be about 14 psi to play with.

Yesterday, I updated my firmware from 28/02//2 to the current version, 28.82 (which apparently is 28/02//2 in the firmware version box). Shouldn't this be 28/08//2?

Anyway, after the update, I notice my N20 TMAP was at a value of 15. So I changed this to 0, as I don't have one. I also noticed my 0-6 cyl logging was at 15, so I changed this to 5 as it should be. I also played with the default wastegate position and changed it to 80 from 60. Then I lowered the base duty cycle from 2800 to 2500 as I feel a bit of surging occasionally.

The issue I'm experiencing now is all maps have lowered boost. Map 0 & 4 are around 4-5 psi and map 5 is about 6 to 7 psi. I changed the TMAP back to 15 and map 5 went up to 8-9 psi, map 0 & 4 - 5-6 psi.

What's going on here?
What are the defaults I should be using?
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Default 04-28-2015, 05:35 AM

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For the past few weeks, I've been using Map 5 without an issue. Map 5 is giving be about 14 psi to play with.

Yesterday, I updated my firmware from 28/02//2 to the current version, 28.82 (which apparently is 28/02//2 in the firmware version box). Shouldn't this be 28/08//2?

Anyway, after the update, I notice my N20 TMAP was at a value of 15. So I changed this to 0, as I don't have one. I also noticed my 0-6 cyl logging was at 15, so I changed this to 5 as it should be. I also played with the default wastegate position and changed it to 80 from 60. Then I lowered the base duty cycle from 2800 to 2500 as I feel a bit of surging occasionally.

The issue I'm experiencing now is all maps have lowered boost. Map 0 & 4 are around 4-5 psi and map 5 is about 6 to 7 psi. I changed the TMAP back to 15 and map 5 went up to 8-9 psi, map 0 & 4 - 5-6 psi.

What's going on here?
What are the defaults I should be using?

Are you using the latest interface software?

Make sure your Duty BIAS all set to zero and max boost 3rd gear disabled as zero or set proper PSI value.


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Default 04-28-2015, 05:56 AM

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Are you using the latest interface software?

Make sure your Duty BIAS all set to zero and max boost 3rd gear disabled as zero or set proper PSI value.
Downloaded the latest interface last night.

Not sure how to change duty bias, as I don't see a box for it. Is this FF/Wastegate adaption?

My 3rd gear limiter was set to 2.0 psi either after the change or by JB4 mobile, which was strange because it's never limited it to 2 psi. I changed it back to 0 last night before testing the changes.

Also, my meth trigger mode is set to 100 for some reason. I wonder if something got corrupted

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Default 04-28-2015, 06:15 AM

Are you using the mobile interface or laptop?

They released the new mobile interface which shows the duty Bias under the setting, JB4 setting user adjustment. You will see map6 boost, AFT Bias and Duty Bias, leave all the same except the Duty Bias all fields should be set to zero, it will be the same if you are using the laptop software.

And make sure 1st, 2nd, 3rd gear max boost is correct

Post print screen of you settings page if it's different from the above


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Default 04-28-2015, 06:19 AM

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Are you using the mobile interface or laptop?

They released the new mobile interface which shows the duty Bias under the setting, JB4 setting user adjustment. You will see map6 boost, AFT Bias and Duty Bias, leave all the same except the Duty Bias all fields should be set to zero, it will be the same if you are using the laptop software.

And make sure 1st, 2nd, 3rd gear max boost is correct

Post print screen of you settings page if it's different from the above
I use both, the mobile interface and the laptop interface. Both are up to date. I found the setting you are talking about. I previously though this only related to map 6. I guess a few of my settings got corrupted on the firmware update. I have the settings changed and will update them on when I drive home from work today. I'll post back here if it fixed it or not.

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Default 04-28-2015, 07:12 AM

Try using the windows software only until you get your settings figured out. The windows software is created by Terry and the JB4 Mobile app is third party. There is sometimes a delay in the updates relating to bugs, etc.


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Try using the windows software only until you get your settings figured out. The windows software is created by Terry and the JB4 Mobile app is third party. There is sometimes a delay in the updates relating to bugs, etc.
Will do. Thanks for the advice.

What does 28/02//2 mean? I know the current version is v28.8.2, which in my mind corresponds to 28/08//2. Uploading the 28.8.2 firmware gives me 28/02//2, so that must be the current version. Very confusing.



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Default 04-28-2015, 08:12 AM

28/82/2 is the latest firmware. The number after the // is the board type. 2 is G5.


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My default Open loop setting were at 80 - is there any good reason to switch to 70 as per the new defaults on page 1?
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It will adjust itself if needed.


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