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Default 08-04-2018, 07:13 PM

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F10/535 in dash control

To enable the BC button menu changes on F10/535 models you must connect to the JB4 using a BMS DATA cable or BlueTooth kit and change FutureUseD bit #1 on (resulting value of 2) press save. Then turn off ignition and lock doors for 5 min to allow the JB4 to reset.

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bit0 - Disable in dash BC button controls
bit1 - Alternative in dash BC F10 compatibility mode
bit2 - Disable oil temp warmup protection -- full boost target when oil temps < 160
bit3 - Disable wastegate/FF adaption learning for diagnostic purposes
bit4 - Enable user adjustable progressive meth control
bit5 - Disable port injection mapping tip in gain
bit6 - Enable extra timing cylinder logging
bit7 - Slow down CANbus sample rate - required for some vehicles with older software

FutureUseA: Negative offset to dutycycle via EWG connector to correct for over boost conditions when PWM is low

Loving the JB4 in my F10 528i. However, I can't get the BC controls to turn on and it seems the Future Use D options are not the same as above. My Bit 0 is the same, but I don't have any other Bit option related to BC controls. It would be great to be able to disable the fuel gauge boost gauge and rpm sweep among other things in the BC controlled settings.
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Default 08-06-2018, 09:46 AM

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Loving the JB4 in my F10 528i. However, I can't get the BC controls to turn on and it seems the Future Use D options are not the same as above. My Bit 0 is the same, but I don't have any other Bit option related to BC controls. It would be great to be able to disable the fuel gauge boost gauge and rpm sweep among other things in the BC controlled settings.
Are you on the most updated firmware? It should all be the same for 5 series regardless of engine.


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Default 08-06-2018, 02:58 PM

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Are you on the most updated firmware? It should all be the same for 5 series regardless of engine.
I think so, I'm on the N20_OBDII_EWG_6_T5

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Default 08-14-2018, 10:27 PM

What map should I run in a 320i while stacking with bm3? map 5 will be the best? Sorta seemed like they were fighting each other to target. Bm3 flash is Stage 2 93. Not sure what to do once I want to run E30 either due to the bm3 only being 93.
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Default 08-14-2018, 11:52 PM

NONE!
Take logs with jb4 at map 0 and then at map 4 and then disconnect ALL plugs and relog again with BM3. Monitor timing mostly and boost targets. Experience showed that JB4 cant stuck with BM3 atm on the N20. If the user Midnight see the post might be able to provide with some depth experience he had recently trying the same thing. He had severe timing issues and was unable to hit target when JB4 was even connected in map 0. We ended to remove all plugs and tune got smoother and more powerful.
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Default 08-15-2018, 10:06 AM

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NONE!
Take logs with jb4 at map 0 and then at map 4 and then disconnect ALL plugs and relog again with BM3. Monitor timing mostly and boost targets. Experience showed that JB4 cant stuck with BM3 atm on the N20. If the user Midnight see the post might be able to provide with some depth experience he had recently trying the same thing. He had severe timing issues and was unable to hit target when JB4 was even connected in map 0. We ended to remove all plugs and tune got smoother and more powerful.
Great to know! Thank you. Guess I’ll have to wait for terry’s input on backend flash mode
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Default 08-22-2018, 08:23 AM

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JB4 Map Guide

Map 0: JB4 disabled.
Map 1: PWG models absolute target 21psi peak, EWG models additive 4psi peak over stock.
Map 2: PWG models absolute target 22psi peak, EWG models additive 6psi peak over stock.
Map 3: Progressive Methanol Injection. Requires BMS methanol kit or BMS FSB for meth pump control.
Map 4: Stock performance, JB4 on
Map 5: Absolute targeting map with a peak boost 17psi. Suitable for 320 & 520 applications.
Map 6: User definable absolute target map. Suggested for troubleshooting by professionals only.
Map 7: Race gas absolute target map. Peak boost 23psi. This is a fairly aggressive map and increases engine damage risk. Use with caution.
Hi Terry, there is something like this for N20 X1 & Z4?

http://www.n54tech.com/flash_files/jb4_wheel_1.jpg


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Default 08-25-2018, 01:18 PM

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Hi Terry, there is something like this for N20 X1 & Z4?

http://www.n54tech.com/flash_files/jb4_wheel_1.jpg
Guys, anyone knows?

Menu 0 is for map selection
What about menu 1, 2, 3, 4, etc?
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Default 09-02-2018, 06:37 PM

Was running a track event with NASA Rocky Mountain yesterday and ran into something I haven't experience before install the JB4.

During the last couple of laps during two of my sessions (during the the hottest parts of the day) I experienced a fall off in power. I'm guessing this was a matter of the intercooler getting overwhelmed and the JB4 backing itself down to protect the engine. But I'm wondering if others have experienced this and if this theory makes sense.

I had a last run later in the day where it had rained for awhile and really cooled things down. Despite running my fastest laps of the day I did not experience any drop-off in this session, which is a big part of what made me think it was temperature/overheating that was the root cause.

The JB4 is currently the only powertrain related mod the car has.
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Default 09-14-2018, 06:06 AM

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Hi Terry, there is something like this for N20 X1 & Z4?

http://www.n54tech.com/flash_files/jb4_wheel_1.jpg
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Default 09-15-2018, 07:58 AM

Hello grooveriders,

Your logs look good except it's a bit lean as AFR is above 13 in high engine RPM.

The engine power cut may caused by the 8AT safe fail protection. ZF 8AT45 can handle maximum 450NM. The car cuts the engine power when it's over 450NM.

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Hi Terry i have been using the jb4 running on map2 for the past few months & very happy with it.

My car is a 520i with upgraded 528i pistons. Running a ER ******* ******** , *** back remus exhaust and stainless steel charge & Boost *****.

Ran a few WOTs on the road with good performance and no check light or issues.

Today i went to the dyno for a run but once the engine goes > 6000+ rpm , there will be a power cut. Power was at about 290bhp 440 torque Nm at around 6000+ rpm.

No check lights from the car though. I have attached the 2 log files. Appreciate your kind advise that what could be wrong.
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Default 09-15-2018, 08:18 AM

N20 Z4 menu is similar to this.

Have you noticed anything different?

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Hi Terry, there is something like this for N20 X1 & Z4?

http://www.n54tech.com/flash_files/jb4_wheel_1.jpg
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Default 09-26-2018, 11:52 AM

Hi Terry,
I have a problem after the latest firm update.
My car is a 2015 528i lci which has the digital instrument.
I had the jb4 for 5 months with no issue, but since the new update in some occasion the left blinker would stay on for 2 second then the speedo, rev counter and the speed in hud all went to 0. I have to pull over switch the car off and wait for few moments then restart the car then it will be back to normal.
This happens 2 - 3 times a week while driving.
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Default 09-28-2018, 06:10 AM

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Default Settings:
Note for EWG TMAP should be set to 1 but for PWG TMAP should be set to 0.
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Terry, can you please give me the starting point values for N20 hybrid map 6 like N54 hybrid turbo guide?

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Default 09-30-2018, 04:07 PM

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Terry, can you please give me the starting point values for N20 hybrid map 6 like N54 hybrid turbo guide?

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Default 09-30-2018, 07:15 PM

Hi, I am having issues with my JB4 on my 2015 X3 28i. I just moved it from my 528 to my x3 and i think i am having some canbus issues. I already know the ecu is different so the control menus don't work. The issue i'm having is that the left blinker light sporadically turns on and remains on until car is shut off. This does not happen all the time, but in the past week it has happened twice. I assume this is canbus related. The car is my wife's car and is stock so my plans are only to leave it on map1. I've read i could just leave the obdii unplugged and i'm sure this could be one way to solve the issue, but any insight from BMS? Running the latest firmware. Thank you
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Default 10-01-2018, 07:35 AM

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Hi, I am having issues with my JB4 on my 2015 X3 28i. I just moved it from my 528 to my x3 and i think i am having some canbus issues. I already know the ecu is different so the control menus don't work. The issue i'm having is that the left blinker light sporadically turns on and remains on until car is shut off. This does not happen all the time, but in the past week it has happened twice. I assume this is canbus related. The car is my wife's car and is stock so my plans are only to leave it on map1. I've read i could just leave the obdii unplugged and i'm sure this could be one way to solve the issue, but any insight from BMS? Running the latest firmware. Thank you
Can you get us a log? Without the OBD it will be stage 1 basically.


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Default 10-01-2018, 07:42 AM

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Can you get us a log? Without the OBD it will be stage 1 basically.
Sure, what kind of logs to do you want? It's a sporadic issue and I think it would be hard to convince my wife to hookup the laptop every time she takes the car out lol. Did you just want some pulls/normal driving?
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Default 10-02-2018, 01:16 AM

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Default 10-05-2018, 02:58 PM

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Hi, I am having issues with my JB4 on my 2015 X3 28i. I just moved it from my 528 to my x3 and i think i am having some canbus issues. I already know the ecu is different so the control menus don't work. The issue i'm having is that the left blinker light sporadically turns on and remains on until car is shut off. This does not happen all the time, but in the past week it has happened twice. I assume this is canbus related. The car is my wife's car and is stock so my plans are only to leave it on map1. I've read i could just leave the obdii unplugged and i'm sure this could be one way to solve the issue, but any insight from BMS? Running the latest firmware. Thank you
Hi, you and I have the same issue only mine is more servere, I have digital cluster which means I also lose rpm, speedo readouts. Hope they can solve the issue at earliest.
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Default 10-06-2018, 12:45 PM

So after a few days of driving my wife's x3, I was able to see the canbus issue. When this issue occurs the right signal flashes once and then the left signal stays on continuous. All gauges also seem to freeze. I wasn't thinking and should've grabbed a photo and I also was not setup to do data logging at the time. But i was able to just reach down and unplug the obdii and replug it back in and the cluster resumed to normal. Any ideas? No issues noticed other than this. Thanks.
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Default 10-08-2018, 10:16 AM

Just happened again. Here is a video of what it does https://youtu.be/6V0_9phU2Ps It almost seems like it wants to go into menu system and is showing that its on menu 0, Map 1. Is there a way to disable this menu option if it doesn't work with the x3?

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Default 10-08-2018, 03:45 PM

I have a 2014 328i with a vsrf street hd fmic, ftp cp & tic, and an injen cai. It's on map 1 right now with 91 octane gas. JB4 has bluetooth and all wires hooked up. It's a 6MT, that made it a bit more difficult but we got everything done in good time, about 6 hours for all parts listed. Incredible performance for a single mod session.

The only higher octane gas readily available is 93 E10. What would the logical next step be?

Can I run 93 E10 as is? If so, should I should I still stick with map 1? Would map 2 be more harmful to my engine? It only has 37k miles so I plan to enjoy it for a while.

Does getting a down pipe make sense with only 91 or 93 E10 available? I'd likely need a lot of help with the install.

Not sure my logs will help a whole lot as they were done on a whim.

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Hi terry my I run my jb4 with a custom DME tune by my tuner and now after the firmware updates, my bmw n20 520i has been throwing error codes namely, Map Sensor Short to ground, reduced power mode, map sensor short circuit and rail pressure sensor short to ground. How do I rectify the issue. it was running fine till the updates on the jb4 phone app
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Default 10-12-2018, 09:03 AM

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Hi terry my I run my jb4 with a custom DME tune by my tuner and now after the firmware updates, my bmw n20 520i has been throwing error codes namely, Map Sensor Short to ground, reduced power mode, map sensor short circuit and rail pressure sensor short to ground. How do I rectify the issue. it was running fine till the updates on the jb4 phone app
Does it happen on map 0?


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