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Default Phoenix Racing CP fitment - 06-23-2018, 09:55 AM

Just picked up a Phoenix racing chargepipe and Tial BOV. Trying to fit this thing in, and it just seems way too long. I can get the pipe to clamp onto the throttle body, but the opening between the CP and lower CP to the intercooler is only a few inches wide. The elbow provided is several inches long, and no matter how far I seat it onto the CP nothing will match up.

Add to that the elbow fits so tight on the CP once its on, you cannot move the clamps or adjust the angle of the elbow. Regardless, I've tried putting the elbow on the lower CP and tried to match it up to the CP and it didn't work. I tried putting the elbow on the CP and lining that up to the lower CP and it was still too strange of an angle to line up.

I don't want to put undue pressure on the CP where it meets the throttle body. Anyone have any suggestions? Can I cut the elbow and still maintain integrity of it?


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Default 06-23-2018, 11:46 AM

It's tight and we have it this way so you don't have the chargepipe popping off.

The best way I do it is to clamp the bottom side of the coupler to down to the 2.5" pipe.

Then I put the chargepipe in and wiggle until it goes down enough and then turn up and match the flange to the throttle body.

If you FEEL you're having too much trouble and can't do it, you can trim a bit off the silicone if needed.


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Default 06-23-2018, 02:22 PM

Elbow has to go on before you clamp in the CP. The elbow is longer to allow a greater clamping force and some adjustment for those running aftermarket coldpipes (to the IC). It just pushes over more or less of the CP as needed for length.


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Default 06-23-2018, 02:33 PM

it's always that tight. All these various Tial flange CPs are made in China, likely by the same factory. The silicone coupling the all the same as well.

I installed number of these that go by various brand names. It always take brute force to get them on but they do go on.
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Default 06-23-2018, 04:49 PM

Lol. Thanks guys for all the responses. I’ve seen some suggestions about getting grease or some type of lubricant to ease in aligning the ***** and bands. Would a silicone spray be okay? I just need to be able to move them once lined up. It’s just so tight, which I get, locks onto the pipe. Just need a little breathing room. Thanks for suggestions
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Default 06-24-2018, 02:20 PM

Just as an update, I did wind up getting it to fit without cutting it. Brute force was just not working, so got some spray silicone lubricant and put a bit on the ***** and the elbow. It allowed me to be able to easily attach them and allowed me to rotate them into the correct positions. Tightened down the clamps and all was golden.

Thanks for the suggestions.
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Default 06-24-2018, 09:52 PM

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Just as an update, I did wind up getting it to fit without cutting it. Brute force was just not working, so got some spray silicone lubricant and put a bit on the ***** and the elbow. It allowed me to be able to easily attach them and allowed me to rotate them into the correct positions. Tightened down the clamps and all was golden.

Thanks for the suggestions.
Sometimes a little lube is all you need... (god that sounds so wrong LOL).

Glad all is good now



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Default 06-25-2018, 05:14 AM

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Sometimes a little lube is all you need... (god that sounds so wrong LOL).

Glad all is good now

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Default 06-25-2018, 09:30 AM

Yea, I always put a bit of motor oil on the silicone when it's a tight fit. Make's it so much easier and faster.


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