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Default 11-20-2016, 02:10 PM

Looks pretty normal. IAT's are pretty high on one log so the timing correction is expected.



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Default 11-20-2016, 03:23 PM

What can be done to lower IAT's? A good FMIC? I don't want meth injection. Ambient temperature here in holland is currently around 7,5 celcius so quite cold and I do have the BMS Performance Intake... Maybe IAT is probably higher because i did some pulls already. Curious to hear your thoughts.


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Default 11-21-2016, 10:39 AM

If you're not interested in running meth, a good FMIC is your only option.



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Default 11-22-2016, 03:26 AM

Did another log today on a higher boost curve. The car is reaching target, avg ign is low but PWM is really high, I don't understand, I do not have a boost leak. Any ideas there?
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Default 11-22-2016, 11:31 PM

Little bit of a strange PWM curve but log doesn't look to bad. Timing looks okay.



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Default 11-24-2016, 01:14 PM

Attached two logs, one map6 and on map5. Why is the PMW curve on map6 so strange and high? Is it because boost is too high? What can i do? On map 5 everything looks really good but boost is lower. The car handles map6 fine... any help is appreciated.
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Default 11-25-2016, 01:32 PM

More boost requires more PWM, that is normal. You also had a pretty good throttle closure on map 6 due to a bump or spinning tires.



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Default 12-08-2016, 12:08 PM

Please have a look at my latest log file on map 5 with Aral 102 (AKI95) mixed with 25% ethanol. How does it look?
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Default 12-08-2016, 12:49 PM

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Please have a look at my latest log file on map 5 with Aral 102 (AKI95) mixed with 25% ethanol. How does it look?
Looks normal to me. With that 95oct and e25 I expect to see more boost out of map 5 though.

Disconnect your negative battery terminal in the trunk for about 5 minutes (don't close the trunk or you won't be able to pop it again with no power). This I think will reset the cars learned fuel trims/timing etc.

Reconnect battery after 5 minutes. Switch to another map with the car running and then switch right back to map 5. This will reset your avgIgn to 3.5.

Do at least 3 logs.

Curious to see if you avgIgn goes down and boost up.
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Default 12-08-2016, 06:31 PM

Try switching to map 6. Set your boost targets to 15psi for starters and taper it a bit up top.



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Default 12-09-2016, 03:23 AM

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Looks normal to me. With that 95oct and e25 I expect to see more boost out of map 5 though.

Disconnect your negative battery terminal in the trunk for about 5 minutes (don't close the trunk or you won't be able to pop it again with no power). This I think will reset the cars learned fuel trims/timing etc.

Reconnect battery after 5 minutes. Switch to another map with the car running and then switch right back to map 5. This will reset your avgIgn to 3.5.

Do at least 3 logs.

Curious to see if you avgIgn goes down and boost up.
I have done exactly what you said and attached are the first 3 logs after the reset. Please note that I had some minor wheelspin. I notice FF creaping up quite high and boost does not really come up.

Please note that i have mixed pure 100% bio-ethanol with ARAL 102 fuel (AKI95). (30liters AKI95 & 10 liters bioethanol)

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Try switching to map 6. Set your boost targets to 15psi for starters and taper it a bit up top.
I'll try this later today when i have time again


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Default 12-09-2016, 03:25 AM

Forgot to attached the logs... here they are (I also attached log 4, 5 & 6 which i have done after the first 3.
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Default 12-11-2016, 12:28 PM

Ok guys, here are two logs on map6 with 15psi flat boost. Ethanol percentage is little lower now, approx 15% with AKI95 fuel.
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Default 12-18-2016, 02:18 AM

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Default 12-19-2016, 10:55 AM

15psi logs look pretty normal to me. If you want to increase boost, try increasing it by 1psi or so. A little duty bias tuning may help with the boost targets up top.



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Default 12-21-2016, 08:13 AM

Thanks Steve, could you help me a little one the way with the settings? Maybe you could give an example what i could try with psi & duty bias per RPM? That would be nice. THe duty bias is rather new and i've read a lot about it already so i know what i can do with it.


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Default 12-21-2016, 02:07 PM

I'd recommend following the duty bias thread, it has all the information you will need. Then you can post logs and any specific questions you may have.

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Default 12-24-2016, 06:25 AM

I have done the duty bias tuning and the car performs much better, I have it set on max. 16psi. I tried to increase to max 17psi, but suddenly i got the drivetrain error again. I checked the logs and it seems the FPH can not handle it anymore. Probably because of the added ethanol.

I'm running AKI95 fuel + 25% bio-ethanol.

Please find attached two logs, one with max. 16psi which looks OK, and the other one with max. 17psi where i got the drivetrain error and lost power.
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Default 12-24-2016, 01:02 PM

Correct, HPFP took a huge hit and can't handle that much boost on your current fuel mix.



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Default 12-28-2016, 02:37 AM

Hey Steve, i lowered the mix with 20% ethanol and did some duty bias adjustments. On some point HPFP is at 11, just above 10 & trims are all below 50. Please check the log.

Is there anything I can do with the settings to increase HPFP (apart from lowering boost & ethanol mixture?)

I'm getting the hang of it...
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Default 12-28-2016, 08:07 AM

Well, thought getting the hang of it... did a run today again and now it seems there is a boost leak of some sort? PSI drops immediately after gear change to 4th gear and doesn't reach boost target anymore, PWM is really high. How to get it stable, , thought i had it. This has happened to me more times and i don't get it why this sometimes happens? Steve an idea?

Attached the log.
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Default 12-29-2016, 11:03 AM

Well it is definately not a boost leak. Steve, any idea why pressure drops after shift and doesn't reach target?


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Default 12-30-2016, 08:33 AM

Your duty bias tuning is rather odd. You shouldn't have the 30's in there, not that I think it is contributing to what you are seeing but change those and do a couple more logs to see if the drop in 4th gear is consistent.



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Default 12-30-2016, 01:35 PM

The sudden drop in psi is not related to the duty bias settings ... I had this drop before and it is not a consistent drop. It does not happen all the time. When it happens it feels like the car is sucking in too much air.

I disabled error delete on JB4 to see if the car logs some kind of error. What I noticed in ISTA is the error code "102001", but this error seems to be ignored as it is a tuner code. In JB4 it reads 102001 Air mass, plausibility -- Tuner code, ignore.

With my my current "odd" duty bias setting i have PWM & FF curve almost even. When i disable DB tuning with PID set to 12, PWM is much higher than FF as you can see in the attached log. When driving without DB tuning FF/Waste Adaption will learn up to almost 150.
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Default 01-02-2017, 12:44 PM

Today i did four WOT runs from 4th gear starting with FF/Wastegate Adaption set to 60 and duty bias set to 50 all over the rpm range.

After the fourth run FF/Wastegate Adaption has already learned up to 126. Everything else looks good to me and the car is running really good.

What I also notice when comparing with previous logs is that PWM is quite high on these boost levels. I think that this has to do with the wagner intercooler, with the stock intercooler pwm levels at same boost were 50% lower. This is probably normal behaviour because the intercooler is almost 80% larger than the stock one.

On all four runs boost did not drop after shift, although it does still happen sometimes.

Still i'm sure that the car eventually will learn up to FF 150 again, i'm looking for ways to finetune it so i can get it stable. But I can't completely get a grip on it. Any suggestions Steve?
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