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Default 09-24-2015, 12:05 PM

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It's the other way around, bank 1 is running lean and then suddenly goes rich.

It used to be that AFR was reported as which ever bank is the leanest. I believe that has been changed and it is now reported as bank 1.

If that's the case and the O2 sensor is bad, then the problem should have followed the sensor when you changed it. However if you didn't do the same type of log, you may not have seen it or known what to look for.

If AFR is still being reported as which ever bank is the leanest...the problem would not have followed in the logs and it would appear that it was not an O2 related issue.

Does that make sense?
okay if afr is climbing up in the log means lean and going down means rich right? and after I swapped the sensors I should have looked out for exactly the opposite bank it did not matter if it still would have said 2c32? could my post *** sensor cause that issue? i did not swap them! also i attached 3 more logs from my way home! should i change the pre *** sensor again and take another log? what should be my next step?
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Default 09-24-2015, 12:48 PM

Yes, up = leaner and down = richer.

Yes, you should have looked to see if it switched banks. However, it didn't do it in any of those 3 logs you just posted...so the problem is intermittent. That makes things a bit more difficult.

I doubt that the post *** sensors are the issue but I wouldn't rule it out completely. Typically if post cats are a problem, a lambda adaption reset will resolve the issue for a while as the DME doesn't make real time AFR adjustments based on those.

If it were me, I'd swap the pre-cats, reset adaptions, clear codes, and run them that way for a while. You'll have to drape the wires over the top of the motor as one will be too short.



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Default 09-24-2015, 01:23 PM

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Yes, up = leaner and down = richer.

Yes, you should have looked to see if it switched banks. However, it didn't do it in any of those 3 logs you just posted...so the problem is intermittent. That makes things a bit more difficult.

I doubt that the post *** sensors are the issue but I wouldn't rule it out completely. Typically if post cats are a problem, a lambda adaption reset will resolve the issue for a while as the DME doesn't make real time AFR adjustments based on those.

If it were me, I'd swap the pre-cats, reset adaptions, clear codes, and run them that way for a while. You'll have to drape the wires over the top of the motor as one will be too short.
Ok here is the thing did a 1/7 before I left work drove about 40-50 miles by now and no code popped up yet
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Default 09-24-2015, 01:39 PM

Good....then lets see how this plays out.



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Default 09-24-2015, 01:52 PM

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Good....then lets see how this plays out.
okay will go to get some logs and let you know when the code comes back

Thanks so much for your help and your quick response!!!
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Default 09-24-2015, 04:58 PM

No problem.



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Default 09-24-2015, 06:24 PM

got some logs here... guess my afr isn't to bad now? also no 2c32 code so far! but just for my understanding timing corrections are not good right? do I have during cruising a huge amount on timing correction's? am I right ? if so what's causing that? and how to solve it...thanks in advance
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Default 09-24-2015, 06:32 PM

So far I don't see anything out of the ordinary. Most of your logs start in second, aren't WOT, and have wheel spin. Those don't make for very good logs. Timing looks fine thus far.



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Default 09-24-2015, 07:02 PM

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So far I don't see anything out of the ordinary. Most of your logs start in second, aren't WOT, and have wheel spin. Those don't make for very good logs. Timing looks fine thus far.
I feel already stupid to say all the time thank you Steve and so on but, THANK YOU for the quick response and taking all the time to look into all my logs today which were a couple, specially I'm not the only one with issues and probably not even big issues, just big issues for me of course if not I wouldn't ask that many


so I don't need to have a bad feeling about timing if going wot?
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Default 09-25-2015, 09:28 AM

No problem.

No, I'm not saying you don't need to worry about timing. In your logs I don't see any real problems with timing but you need to take better logs. Most of the variations you see in timing are due to wheel spin and shifting.

Take logs in 3rd from 2.5K to redline.



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Default 09-27-2015, 06:55 PM

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No problem.

No, I'm not saying you don't need to worry about timing. In your logs I don't see any real problems with timing but you need to take better logs. Most of the variations you see in timing are due to wheel spin and shifting.

Take logs in 3rd from 2.5K to redline.
Hello Steve / Guys
i was able to install INPA this weekend to check my O2 sensor (voltage), please could you spent a look at this video what i uploaded on youtube?
is that the answer of my issue (2C32 and that i'm running rich & lean sometimes)
monitor sensor in bank 1.



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Default 09-28-2015, 05:57 AM

Sorry, I haven't played with that and would need to in order to see how it normally looks.

Initially bank 1 looks more unstable though.



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Default 09-28-2015, 06:20 PM

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Sorry, I haven't played with that and would need to in order to see how it normally looks.

Initially bank 1 looks more unstable though.
Ok just ordered a new o2 Sensor so we will see what happens I'll keep you posted!

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Ok just ordered a new o2 Sensor so we will see what happens I'll keep you posted!

And thanks Steve for taking the Time watching these stupid videos
UPDATE: 2C32 still present after changing the O2 sensor behind catalytic converter 1! Still unstable like in the video posted above!


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Default 10-01-2015, 08:34 AM

The DME doesn't use the post-*** sensors to determine your AFR's, it uses the pre-*** sensors.



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The DME doesn't use the post-*** sensors to determine your AFR's, it uses the pre-*** sensors.
Hey Steve finally i was able to change my pre *** in bank 2 and both post *** sensors, after i was done i took it for a spin but then i got kicked to map 4! what was the issue the 21psi? attached some logs! how does everything else look? is she healthy?

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Hey Steve finally i was able to change my pre *** in bank 2 and both post *** sensors, after i was done i took it for a spin but then i got kicked to map 4! what was the issue the 21psi? attached some logs! how does everything else look? is she healthy?


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Default 10-14-2015, 07:50 AM

Please post good logs taken in 3rd gear 2.5K to redline at WOT.

Raise your boost limit to 20 and your LPFP is crashing, you'll need to upgrade that.



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Default 10-30-2015, 09:21 AM

Hey Guys

What to watch out for if installing a N20 3.5bar sensor if running map5?
Terry says something about setting duty to 65 all across the board and lower FF to 60 right !? But does it also applies if I'm on map5? Thought the user adjustments are only for if you running map 6!
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Yes, it applies to map 5 too.



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Yes, it applies to map 5 too.
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Hello ,

here we go again have had a misfire on cyl.3 and 2F81 & 2F83 codes attached some logs does anybody know what the codes means and how do my LOGS look is she running OK???

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PWM is maxing out, your FF is maxed out, and you are under boosting pretty bad. You may need to start looking for a boost leak or hardware issue.

Do you have all your DB's set to 65?



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PWM is maxing out, your FF is maxed out, and you are under boosting pretty bad. You may need to start looking for a boost leak or hardware issue.

Do you have all your DB's set to 65?
oh no!!! And yeah all set to 65! Under boost!? Should I not get a code?
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