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Default 07-13-2011, 08:56 PM

now theres a good set up. You won't be dissapointed. I bet you hold 1 psi more than you used to with any other set up. Do you have a boost gauge?


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Default 07-13-2011, 08:59 PM

I'm going to set about installing my FSB kit this weekend -- I'm using the trunk tank for now.

I had a quick glance through the BMS WW FSB install guide .. presumably the rear tank install is more or less identical, except I need to run the meth line & pump power wire through the car ... ?

Since the power wire run is quite long from the pump in the trunk to the FSB, should I fuse it at both ends? I remember when I was a kid and installed car stereos, we always used to do this for extra precaution .. that was a while ago, and I need refreshing
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Default 07-13-2011, 09:23 PM

Sounds about right. You just fuse it at the +12v (FSB) side. In or close to the DME.


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Default 07-13-2011, 10:01 PM

Has anyone mounted this on the 5er?


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Default 07-14-2011, 08:55 AM

Anyone know typically how long a gallon of boost juice lasts?


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Default 07-14-2011, 08:56 AM

around 3 minutes of spraying

EDIT: which is awhile probably last you about 2 weeks with some spirited driving here and there
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Default 07-14-2011, 09:27 AM

Does this piece of kit look ok for the meth kit?

http://www.n54tuning.com/index.php?_...d&productId=78


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Default 07-14-2011, 11:17 AM

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Does this piece of kit look ok for the meth kit?

http://www.n54tuning.com/index.php?_...d&productId=78
I have the ETS cp with Tial bov and there is no meth bungs available. I asked Michael@ETS if they could make me a second pipe that had a couple meth bungs, but they don't do that anymore. I think they don't want to take the liability is the issue. I'm going to take my ets cp and have a couple meth bungs welded on by a shop in my area. Hoping to get one by the elbow and one by the TB. I didn't want to tap the pipe because I'm worried that there won't be enough threading, plus I want to be able to plug the pipe when I remove the meth kit for servicing. There are guys that tap the cp, but I just don't have confidence in a couple threads holding the nozzle in properly.


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Default 07-14-2011, 03:03 PM

ER will do it for you! Call Fred Su! He will make a charge pipe to order, bov, dvs, bungs, you name it! Sky is the limit!


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Default 07-15-2011, 10:29 AM

Still waiting for the CNC shop to drop off 100 brackets. Hesitant to take any orders until we actually have some of these kits in stock. So probably not until Monday or Tuesday. Sorry guys!


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Default 07-15-2011, 10:52 AM

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Still waiting for the CNC shop to drop off 100 brackets. Hesitant to take any orders until we actually have some of these kits in stock. So probably not until Monday or Tuesday. Sorry guys!
Your killing me... i just got sooo excited when i just saw you posted something in this tread, thought for sure it was the link we all have been waiting for!


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Default 07-15-2011, 01:12 PM

Has the length of the WW pickup tube finally been decided on? Remember you saying the original length was too short.
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Has the length of the WW pickup tube finally been decided on? Remember you saying the original length was too short.
Still testing the longer length in our N55. Forgot to let it run out last tank. Will report back after more driving.


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Default 07-15-2011, 04:38 PM

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Still waiting for the CNC shop to drop off 100 brackets. Hesitant to take any orders until we actually have some of these kits in stock. So probably not until Monday or Tuesday. Sorry guys!
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Still testing the longer length in our N55. Forgot to let it run out last tank. Will report back after more driving.
Thanks for the updates Terry, looking forward to next week.
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Default 07-15-2011, 07:40 PM

How does the FSB warn you when a fault caused the meth to stop spraying and switch maps? What Map will it switch too.
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Default 07-15-2011, 07:54 PM

The JB4 is smart. I don't have FSB, but when my O2 sensor wires were switched, the system thought I was running very lean up top and automatically switched me to Map 4 and 8 lbs max boost. I had to stop and restart the engine each time this happened to get my Map 3 boost back.


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How does the FSB warn you when a fault caused the meth to stop spraying and switch maps? What Map will it switch too.
The FSB gives an indication of normalized flow. When that flow is detected by the JB4, the assigned minimum boost is incremented up by the amount of meth flow by a scaling number. Low or abnormal normalized flow results in only a minimum boost target being generated.
If the FSB is used with the CM progressive spray controller a digital signal is generated by the CM controller when an abnormal normalized flow is detected and the JB4 will revert to Map 1 I believe.


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The FSB gives an indication of normalized flow. When that flow is detected by the JB4, the assigned minimum boost is incremented up by the amount of meth flow by a scaling number. Low or abnormal normalized flow results in only a minimum boost target being generated.
If the FSB is used with the CM progressive spray controller a digital signal is generated by the CM controller when an abnormal normalized flow is detected and the JB4 will revert to Map 1 I believe.
Ok, so it limits boost when flow is funny. What about the other propertys like timming.
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Default 07-16-2011, 10:28 AM

I think Terry is working on adding meth support to the autotuning map5...
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How does the FSB warn you when a fault caused the meth to stop spraying and switch maps? What Map will it switch too.
Right now there is no warning per say. Your meth flow will % will drop and the tuning will dial back proportionally. If it drops to 0 you get map 1 like performance. If you don't monitor meth flow in dash you'll just notice boost is now at 13psi instead of 17psi, for example. The system works basically the same way with the FSB alone as it does with the CMGS/VC2/FSB combo. Only the CMGS would be doing the observation and informing the JB4 to cut back performance vs. it reading the FSB itself and making that determination.


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Default 07-16-2011, 01:05 PM

Great, easy enough to realize no meth is spraying. Just wish we had more gauges to hijack. I'll just keep boost on fuel and IAT on oil and call it good. Cant wait till WW kit gets released.
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Default 07-16-2011, 01:42 PM

I think map 3 meth map is like map 2 with additive features. So when meth isn't flowing, you get about 13-15psi .


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Default 07-16-2011, 04:39 PM

Maybe terry can make a light come on when meth is spraying.......not sure which one though
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Default 07-17-2011, 12:31 AM

meth on map 3 is on top of 13 psi and you can just change your oil to meth flow
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