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Making good progress on EWG control finally. With the extra connections and our new software the JB4 can now smoothly raise or lower wastegate dutycycle from the factory levels. Yet another first for the Stinger platform goes to the JB4. The new JB4 EWG control will open up A LOT of tuning options but the one I'm really interested in is potentially extending the high RPM power and also improving shifts. Either could make a big difference in track times. Will strap the car down to the dyno sometime next week to see what we can do!
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Making good progress on EWG control finally. With the extra connections and our new software the JB4 can now smoothly raise or lower wastegate dutycycle from the factory levels. Yet another first for the Stinger platform goes to the JB4. The new JB4 EWG control will open up A LOT of tuning options but the one I'm really interested in is potentially extending the high RPM power band and also improving shifts. Either could make a big difference in track times. Will strap the car down to the dyno sometime next week to see what we can do!
Nice! Excited to hear more and what this could do for 1/4 mile ETs.
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No signs of knock or anything here. Around what time stamp did you feel it?
I canít recall the time. It also went away the next day so I just chalked it up to the adjustment/change over in fuel from regular 93 to octane boosted fuel since it was right after leaving the gas station.

If looking to try out map7 is sunoco 260GT sufficient? Or is there a better fuel alternative? Planning to attempt some best efforts runs. 😈
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Making good progress on EWG control finally. With the extra connections and our new software the JB4 can now smoothly raise or lower wastegate dutycycle from the factory levels. Yet another first for the Stinger platform goes to the JB4. The new JB4 EWG control will open up A LOT of tuning options but the one I'm really interested in is potentially extending the high RPM power and also improving shifts. Either could make a big difference in track times. Will strap the car down to the dyno sometime next week to see what we can do!
Great news Terry.

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I canít recall the time. It also went away the next day so I just chalked it up to the adjustment/change over in fuel from regular 93 to octane boosted fuel since it was right after leaving the gas station.

If looking to try out map7 is sunoco 260GT sufficient? Or is there a better fuel alternative? Planning to attempt some best efforts runs. 😈
GT260 is good enough for map7 just run it as straight as possible for the best results.


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It's been working well so no reason not to update.
I think I must have missed how to get the gear shift to show on the gages?
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Default 01-06-2020, 08:11 AM

Had a couple dyno pulls this weekend. Can you check the couple logs I took. Made 425hp and 500 torque on a mustang dyno. Waiting for them to email me the dyno sheet since their printer was down.
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I think I must have missed how to get the gear shift to show on the gages?
Update to v12 firmware.


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Had a couple dyno pulls this weekend. Can you check the couple logs I took. Made 425hp and 500 torque on a mustang dyno. Waiting for them to email me the dyno sheet since their printer was down.
Looks good but I think 4th gear would have been a better gear to run in on a load dyno?
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Default 01-07-2020, 05:18 AM

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Update to v12 firmware.
oh no I did, is it just the one called "gear" ?

right now I have RPM, IGN1, AFR,IAT, BOOST and Map

which one do you recommend dropping to be replaced by the gear one ?
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Default 01-07-2020, 09:15 AM

The 6 display gauges have nothing to do with what is recorded in your logs. While driving I'd suggest you look in dash to see what gear you're in.


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Default Octane Booster vs e30 - 01-07-2020, 11:38 AM

For us 91 octane folk, using e30 brings us to 93 octane which then allows us to use Map 2. For Map 3 and Map 5, what are the octane recommendations for each?

Also, say we want to achieve 95 octane; is it more beneficial to hit 93 octane with e30, then supplement with octane booster, OR only use octane booster to hit 95 octane?
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Default 01-07-2020, 01:54 PM

You'd want to look at your own logs and monitor timing advance if experimenting with fuels and trying to determine what is the best combination for your specific situation.


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You'd want to look at your own logs and monitor timing advance if experimenting with fuels and trying to determine what is the best combination for your specific situation.
So there are no octane recommendations for Map 3 or 5?
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Default 01-07-2020, 02:16 PM

From the first post:

Map 0: JB4 disabled
Map 1: 4psi over stock peak tapering to 2.5psi at high RPM. Default performance map suitable for all 91+ octane fuels.
Map 2: 5psi over stock tapering to 4psi at high RPM. Suggested for 93+ octane fuel.
Map 3: 6psi stock tapering to 5psi at high RPM. Suggested for high quality fuel including unleaded race gas, ethanol mixtures up to 30%, or high quality octane booster like Torco or Boostane.
Map 4: Valet map, runs around half as much boost as stock.
Map 5: Up to 7psi over stock. For use with unleaded race fuel and/or E85 mixtures up to 30%.
Map 6: User adjustable map. Enter value of boost over stock by RPM on user adjustment page.
Map 7: Up to 7psi over stock but without top end taper. For unleaded race fuel use and bolt on modifications. May not be suitable for E85 mixtures due to high fuel pressure dropping. If using this map on E85 you should be experienced at reading your own logs and evaluating ignition advance and fuel pressure.
Map 8: Progressive WMI (water/meth) map. Increases boost as a function of methanol flow & methanol boost additive. Holds boost low until WMI is flowing to avoid tip-in knock, and reduces boost as a function of WMI flow in the event of interruption like running out of fluid, leak, or component failure.


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Default 01-07-2020, 02:30 PM

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Map 0: JB4 disabled
Map 1: 4psi over stock peak tapering to 2.5psi at high RPM. Default performance map suitable for all 91+ octane fuels.
Map 2: 5psi over stock tapering to 4psi at high RPM. Suggested for 93+ octane fuel.
Map 3: 6psi stock tapering to 5psi at high RPM. Suggested for high quality fuel including unleaded race gas, ethanol mixtures up to 30%, or high quality octane booster like Torco or Boostane.
Map 4: Valet map, runs around half as much boost as stock.
Map 5: Up to 7psi over stock. For use with unleaded race fuel and/or E85 mixtures up to 30%.
Map 6: User adjustable map. Enter value of boost over stock by RPM on user adjustment page.
Map 7: Up to 7psi over stock but without top end taper. For unleaded race fuel use and bolt on modifications. May not be suitable for E85 mixtures due to high fuel pressure dropping. If using this map on E85 you should be experienced at reading your own logs and evaluating ignition advance and fuel pressure.
Map 8: Progressive WMI (water/meth) map. Increases boost as a function of methanol flow & methanol boost additive. Holds boost low until WMI is flowing to avoid tip-in knock, and reduces boost as a function of WMI flow in the event of interruption like running out of fluid, leak, or component failure.
Donít see a recommended octane level for either Map 3 or 5...
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Default 01-07-2020, 02:56 PM

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Donít see a recommended octane level for either Map 3 or 5...
95+ octane or higher.


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The 6 display gauges have nothing to do with what is recorded in your logs. While driving I'd suggest you look in dash to see what gear you're in.
I guess I thought we had a gauge that would show the gear we are in, I must have misunderstood the info from the first page "Gear reflected is "requested" gear while we've put "current gear" under "load" in the app. "requested" is what is shown in dash and a better indicator of what we're looking for as "current gear" will lag a second or two behind the shift."
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I guess I thought we had a gauge that would show the gear we are in, I must have misunderstood the info from the first page "Gear reflected is "requested" gear while we've put "current gear" under "load" in the app. "requested" is what is shown in dash and a better indicator of what we're looking for as "current gear" will lag a second or two behind the shift."
The JB4 now logs currently selected gear, which can be used as a JB4 gauge, or in logs for reference. It's there for applying the boost by gear. Less useful as an in app gauge, since the gear is also shown in dash.


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Added V13 BETA firmware to get some logs on the minor changes.


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Default 01-09-2020, 09:23 AM

Few people are going to want to custom tune the fuel control anyway, we have it set how we think it should be set for each map. But if you want to use it and can not enter fuel bias values > 100 in your interface you'll have to contact JB4 mobile to get that sorted.


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By popular demand we've start also carrying the Denso "2step" IKH27 plugs, which are 1 step colder than the well proven IKH24 plugs. Not sure yet if they are any better but those who are highly modified and regularly run 20psi or more would be good candidates for them.

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Default 01-09-2020, 06:18 PM

So I updated to the newest firmware, and when I select gear or gear temp they are both at Zero. What's up with that??
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Default 01-09-2020, 06:32 PM

Must not be working on your trans, maybe the command is different? JB4 log?


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