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Default 08-19-2019, 07:11 AM

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Well thatís really not free. Maybe your time is but certainly not mine. If someone is going to take the time to pull plugs it only makes sense to drop a better plug in as opposed to the trash KIA used (even re-gapped).
First, your time is free. Every day you wake up, it is given to you freely. You don't work for it. You don't pay for it. 24 hours. Here you go! It's a gift. LOL

Second, explain to me how the factory plugs qualify as trash?


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Default 08-19-2019, 02:48 PM

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First, your time is free. Every day you wake up, it is given to you freely. You don't work for it. You don't pay for it. 24 hours. Here you go! It's a gift. LOL

Second, explain to me how the factory plugs qualify as trash?

Because in a tuned application... they are!
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Default 08-19-2019, 03:36 PM

The issue with the factory plugs is that for reasons unknown they are prone to ceramic cracking, even when properly gapped. The Denso is an inexpensive option that IMHO is better. But the risks of damage beyond the plugs is low so I get why people just regap the factory plugs. For many it works great. In some cases it doesn't, and then they can do the Denso if needed.


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Default 08-19-2019, 05:01 PM

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First, your time is free. Every day you wake up, it is given to you freely. You don't work for it. You don't pay for it. 24 hours. Here you go! It's a gift. LOL

Second, explain to me how the factory plugs qualify as trash?
First, my time isnít free. My time comes at a rate of $200/hr ó and itís not infinite, itís limited and I do work for it.

Second, see the previous two posts or the plethora of others, some including pictures, that show the trash factory plugs.
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Default 08-20-2019, 08:44 AM

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1) With CPI E50 is the current maximum level for tuning reasons. No indication the fuel system hardware would have any issue with straight E85, though.

2) CPI is not needed for E30. It's for people who want to run closer to E50 which is enough octane to max out the factory turbos.
What is it about CPI that allows you to run a higher ethanol content?
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Default 08-20-2019, 09:54 AM

Supplements the high fuel pressure pump limitations.


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Default 08-20-2019, 10:40 AM

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Supplements the high fuel pressure pump limitations.
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Disregard, I found your thread on stingerforums, and got all the info I needed.

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Default 08-23-2019, 06:25 PM

Is there a way I can turn up boost safety past 21 on the pc app. Limit is set to 21 and everyone else with Bluetooth seem to be able to go up to 25.
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Default 08-24-2019, 09:00 AM

Not until v11 firmware where we recsaled the interface.


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Default 08-24-2019, 07:18 PM

I have noticed something since I’ve had my jb4 installed and I’m just wondering if it’s normal and what might cause it. I’m thinking it’s not a issue but I just want to make sure. Ive had the jb4 for a year now with zero issues. I’ve noticed something when I run map 2 or higher. When I do full throttle runs and let off throttle very quickly it’s not smooth like map 0 or lower then map 2. It’s hard to explain what I feel but it’s almost like power stops more aggressively and harsher. Maybe it’s just the throttle body’s closing more abruptly with the added boost? It’s like when a motor is under throttle and it’s torquing to one way then it stops when you let off and you can feel it.

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Default 08-25-2019, 04:45 PM

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I have noticed something since Iíve had my jb4 installed and Iím just wondering if itís normal and what might cause it. Iím thinking itís not a issue but I just want to make sure. Ive had the jb4 for a year now with zero issues. Iíve noticed something when I run map 2 or higher. When I do full throttle runs and let off throttle very quickly itís not smooth like map 0 or lower then map 2. Itís hard to explain what I feel but itís almost like power stops more aggressively and harsher. Maybe itís just the throttle bodyís closing more abruptly with the added boost? Itís like when a motor is under throttle and itís torquing to one way then it stops when you let off and you can feel it.
The same thing happened to me, and I started getting what sounded like turbo flutter.

I ended up getting adjustable recirculation / atomospheric BOVs. Letting up the pedal in the full atmospheric mode is much smoother now, and likely kinder to your turbos.
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Default 08-25-2019, 06:23 PM

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I have noticed something since Iíve had my jb4 installed and Iím just wondering if itís normal and what might cause it. Iím thinking itís not a issue but I just want to make sure. Ive had the jb4 for a year now with zero issues. Iíve noticed something when I run map 2 or higher. When I do full throttle runs and let off throttle very quickly itís not smooth like map 0 or lower then map 2. Itís hard to explain what I feel but itís almost like power stops more aggressively and harsher. Maybe itís just the throttle bodyís closing more abruptly with the added boost? Itís like when a motor is under throttle and itís torquing to one way then it stops when you let off and you can feel it.
Normal from running higher boost levels. More boost = more airflow to blow out the diverters.


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Default 08-29-2019, 09:14 AM

I understand boost can be limited by gear. And that it's used primarily for launching with limited wheelspin. Where do I make those adjustments and what are the recommendations for an AWD for both Map 2 and Map 3?

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Default 08-29-2019, 09:43 AM

With AWD there is no need to reduce boost in lower gears generally so leave those settings at 0 (default).


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Default 08-29-2019, 09:50 AM

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With AWD there is no need to reduce boost in lower gears generally so leave those settings at 0 (default).
Even on Map 3? Interesting - OK, thanks!
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Default 08-29-2019, 09:57 AM

I've been running map 3 with E30 for over a year and really only get any wheel spin in the rain. I'm AWD with the 18" all season tires too
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Default 08-29-2019, 11:11 AM

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I've been running map 3 with E30 for over a year and really only get any wheel spin in the rain. I'm AWD with the 18" all season tires too
Good to know! I purchased a set of wheels and tires for summer. It's a lot harder to get them to make noise than it is the all-seasons! LOL
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Default 08-30-2019, 03:14 PM

Any pointers on how to acquire and install the IAT Wire? I understand the app portion but can't find anything on the wire except that it is added to the harness.
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Default 08-30-2019, 09:07 PM

You get a fuel wire kit and use just the short wire, it install within the JB4 harness as shown.
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Default 08-30-2019, 09:51 PM

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Default 08-30-2019, 10:25 PM

Finally able to get to Mexico and get two good pulls from a dig, 93 with gapped plugs map 2.
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Default 08-31-2019, 01:43 AM

Got a little pull in on Map 2. BMS intakes, Denso plugs at .022, with fuel wires.
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Default 08-31-2019, 08:55 AM

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Finally able to get to Mexico and get two good pulls from a dig, 93 with gapped plugs map 2.
Looks as expected to me.
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Default 08-31-2019, 08:57 AM

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Got a little pull in on Map 2. BMS intakes, Denso plugs at .022, with fuel wires.
Logs with shifts are better for analysis often but no issues here.
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Default 08-31-2019, 12:42 PM

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Logs with shifts are better for analysis often but no issues here.
Any certain gears seem to be better. I can make it happen.

Eventually, Im planning on running some boostane with my 93 so I can try Map 3. Seems like a few have done Map 3 on good 93 but I want to follow the "rules."
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