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Default 06-10-2019, 05:54 PM

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Hoping not, logs will confirm.
I will test tonight.
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Question 06-10-2019, 06:27 PM

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Yes, see the large trim variance?

He is on WMI also?
Yes, I have the BMS WMI kit.
Running Map 8 at 80 additive and 90 signal scaling.

Attached are the pics of the fuel wire connections.

Also attached are map1 and map2 with no WMI installed.
Not sure why it is running high but is has been that way since I installed it. I went to my first log and numbers are above 40
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Default 06-11-2019, 11:06 AM

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Hoping not, logs will confirm.
Hi Terry,

Just did one quick pull with the v10 firmware.
I didn't notice any difference under WOT, as expected.

I attached the file.
This is a pull from 2nd gear all the way to 7th gear using map 8.

Now this is unrelated to the firmware version, but as you will see, I am using way more boost than desired in 7th gear.
Up to 6th gear, the ecu boost remains under 11psi so the total boost does not go through the roof and the ignition timings seem okay,
but in 7th gear the ecu boost goes up to 13+psi (not sure why) and since the meth additive is a fixed setting that applies on top of ecu boost, I end up using way too much boost and timings do not look good...
I would like to lower the target boost by 1.5~2 psi only in 7th gear, but even Map6 does not seem to offer this possibility (boost by rpm). Is there a way to do that?
Looking at the RPM values, lowering the boost only for RPM under 5k may actually do the trick, but I fear that the car would feel super jerky in other circumstances...
Lowering the meth additive would sure help in the last gear, but all gears from 2nd to 6th would be slower when they could have used more boost...
I am not sure what is the best way to address this problem, guidance will be more than welcome!

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Default 06-11-2019, 01:31 PM

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Do a run long enough to see fuel enrichment moving in the log, and then confirm fuel trims bank1 and bank2 are relatively close together and not over 40 after fuel enrichment has been above 80 for a second or two.
Hi Terry

How does the log and fuel wires look ?, I couldn't see it going above 80 but I'm quite the novice with this stuff.
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Default 06-11-2019, 02:52 PM

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Yes, I have the BMS WMI kit.
Running Map 8 at 80 additive and 90 signal scaling.

Attached are the pics of the fuel wire connections.

Also attached are map1 and map2 with no WMI installed.
Not sure why it is running high but is has been that way since I installed it. I went to my first log and numbers are above 40
Don't see the fuel wire photos so email those in to terry@burgertuning.com and we can pick it up via email.


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Hi Terry

How does the log and fuel wires look ?, I couldn't see it going above 80 but I'm quite the novice with this stuff.
Normal here. Trims are going down as fuel enrichment goes up, both banks are on top of each other.
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Default 06-11-2019, 09:11 PM

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Hi Terry,

Just did one quick pull with the v10 firmware.
I didn't notice any difference under WOT, as expected.
Remember the ECU is LOAD based so it computes a boost target based on many factors including ambient pressure and intake temperature. The JB4 is additive based meaning boost target is being added to the factory target. And since the turbos are undersized as EGT (exhaust gas temperature) increases during longer runs, you'll naturally have more exhaust energy to hit higher boost targets (which won't necessarily make more power).

All things considered I think the log looks as expected for the aggressive WMI target you're running. There is a little timing movement cylinder to cylinder but not much and at this boost level a little movement is expected.
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Default 06-11-2019, 09:34 PM

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Default 06-12-2019, 06:57 AM

^ I believe there are 2 save steps. A confirm and then a save (or something like that).


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Default 06-12-2019, 01:32 PM

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Normal here. Trims are going down as fuel enrichment goes up, both banks are on top of each other.
Excellent. Thanks for checking Terry

Time to update to V10 firmware
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Default 06-12-2019, 02:26 PM

Hello Terry,

what do you say about my map6?

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Default 06-12-2019, 07:27 PM

Terry,

Can you take a look at this brief log?

Map 2, 93 octane

I installed a Wagner intercooler today and just wanted to make sure Iím still looking good.
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Default 06-12-2019, 07:34 PM

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Terry,

Can you take a look at this brief log?

Map 2, 93 octane

I installed a Wagner intercooler today and just wanted to make sure Iím still looking good.
Hi do you have a lot from before the intercooler under similar conditions?
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Hi do you have a lot from before the intercooler under similar conditions?
Nope
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Default 06-12-2019, 10:24 PM

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Terry,

Can you take a look at this brief log?

Map 2, 93 octane

I installed a Wagner intercooler today and just wanted to make sure Iím still looking good.
Yes seems fine... Let's see those 1/4 mile logs next to see how well the IC is working!
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Default 06-13-2019, 09:32 AM

Is there a proper way to disconnect the JB4?

I just took it off, along with the intakes, yet it still feels as quick as Map 1.
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Default 06-13-2019, 09:45 AM

That is all you need to do. Might be a touch of reverse adaption going on.


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Default Fuel wire question.... - 06-13-2019, 04:50 PM

When checking on the short fuel wire with resistor, my multimeter that makes a "noise" if there is a connection and it isn't making a noise? Long wire does.

But, my other multimeter with OHM meter is reading .996 k-ohms, that correct for the short wire with resistor?

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Default 06-13-2019, 08:12 PM

It's a 1k resistor so that sounds right to me.


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Default 06-14-2019, 06:06 AM

Thanks Terry.

Here is a run from around 40-90mph with fuel wires now hooked up. Let me know if everything appears to be working the way it should please.

2019 G70 3.3T AWD with 93oct fuel, K&N panel filters, Pedal Tuner, everything else stock...
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Thanks Terry.

Here is a run from around 40-90mph with fuel wires now hooked up. Let me know if everything appears to be working the way it should please.

2019 G70 3.3T AWD with 93oct fuel, K&N panel filters, Pedal Tuner, everything else stock...
Seems OK so far but lets see a longer run, with boost limiting this is more like a stock log.


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Default 06-14-2019, 11:36 AM

What do you recommend I do to get a good log? 0-60? 0-90? Other?

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Seems OK so far but lets see a longer run, with boost limiting this is more like a stock log.
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Something unique we've been testing for the few months, about ready to move in to production.

It's our Stinger air/oil separator. It's effectively similar to an oil catch can in that it captures oil that would otherwise make it through the PCV in to the intake manifold (gunking up your valves and lowering effective octane), but rather than having to continually monitor and empty the can every few months, this allows the oil to drain back in to your engine where it belongs! Took a few design tweaks to get it just right but we've been pretty happy with the performance of our latest revision. It's really stealthy too with the engine cover on.

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Default 06-16-2019, 07:07 AM

Hi terry
How long before its ready for purchasing
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Default 06-16-2019, 08:26 AM

Should be a couple weeks for the first batch.


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