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Default 08-10-2018, 05:44 AM

Unless there's parts I can already purchase now?
Because I'm.really impatient... lol
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Default 08-10-2018, 01:22 PM

Hopefully the blow off valve increases efficiency, last Bov I did was on my ecoboost mustang and it hurt performance
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Installed the wires, and daily run map2, terry and i have been talking and I am going to run it up to map 3... any suggestion as to how much e85 I should put in the car when doing so?
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A 5 gallon E85 mix rest pump is a good place to start.


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Default 08-10-2018, 07:13 PM

I installed the fuel control wires tonight and I can definitely tell a difference in the upper RPM's. I'll definitely try an e85 blend next.
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Default 08-11-2018, 06:01 PM

I have a couple ideas for the "no boost" bug after doing a higher boost run, until car is restarted. If you can create the fault easily email me and I'll send you a firmware to test.


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Default 08-11-2018, 09:09 PM

Just filled up with e85/rest 93octane... switched it over to map3... car pulls man! Think it’s a bit more powerful now! Wonder the car would make with *********? Thoughts?
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Default 08-11-2018, 11:19 PM

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I have a couple ideas for the "no boost" bug after doing a higher boost run, until car is restarted. If you can create the fault easily email me and I'll send you a firmware to test.
I probably had the no boost issue at least 10 times now but I never get a CEL. I scan for codes and nothing shows up. my car is very tolerant
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Default 08-12-2018, 07:01 PM

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I probably had the no boost issue at least 10 times now but I never get a CEL. I scan for codes and nothing shows up. my car is very tolerant
Yes it seems some get the code some don't, very bizarre! Maybe have to trigger it twice in a row to get the CEL on? Anyway you'd be a good candidate to test some firmware changes as we hunt it down.


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Default 08-12-2018, 11:38 PM

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Yes it seems some get the code some don't, very bizarre! Maybe have to trigger it twice in a row to get the CEL on? Anyway you'd be a good candidate to test some firmware changes as we hunt it down.
Cool , look forward to it.
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Default 08-13-2018, 07:35 AM

I can also test the firmware terry. I can fairly reliably make it happen ( say 50% of the time) on Map 5 full pull
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Default 08-13-2018, 01:27 PM

OK email me for it!


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Default 08-14-2018, 07:14 AM

Terry, I am planning to start modding very soon. What are you planning to develop for the Stinger so I know what not to purchase.
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Default 08-14-2018, 02:09 PM

Terry, I tried the file you sent me and I am not getting the No Boost issue anymore, even on MAP 3. So whatever you did it is working.

Also took the car to the dyno today,
MAP 0 - 341whp / 387wtq - Baseline
MAP 1 - 393whp / 466wtq
MAP 2 - 402whp / 484wtq
MAP 3 - 418whp / 477wtq

We had an issue getting a smooth curve on the dyno, first we though it was wheel spin from the high torque, so we had two guys sit in the back and we tightened the straps some more but nothing changed. Tried with the Fuel Bias on zero and still no use, whenever we go back to MAP 0 the run becomes smooth again.

Maybe Torque Management interfering? CSV files attached, let me know what you think.

Also isn't +/- 13 Afr too lean? Should I change the Fuel Bias setting?
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File Type: csv Dyno - Run 1 - MAP 0.csv (10.8 KB, 7 views)
File Type: csv Dyno - Run 2 - MAP 1 - FC.csv (9.2 KB, 4 views)
File Type: csv Dyno - Run 3 - MAP 2 - FC.csv (9.0 KB, 8 views)
File Type: csv Dyno - Run 11 - MAP 3 - FC.csv (8.7 KB, 12 views)

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Default 08-14-2018, 02:40 PM

Your map0 log has indications of oscillation in it also, so likely a dyno sampling error of some sort. Are you RWD or AWD?

AFR I leaned out a bit more in the V4 firmware at the 100 scaling mark as a test. I'll be changing it or the suggested settings when we publish the firmware. Didn't send it for dyno testing just code testing.

You can knock those 100 spots down to 80 for now if you want to ritchen it up more. AFR is showing as 12.7:1 in the log which is what I was shooting for so the dyno sampling at the tailpipe might just be off 1/2pt due to cats, exhaust contamination, etc.

All said ~418whp for the boost level is pretty solid. What fuel is this again?


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What mods again too?
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Default 08-14-2018, 11:53 PM

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All said ~418whp for the boost level is pretty solid. What fuel is this again?
Im RWD running 98ron with a small shot of wmi 50/50mix.

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Car is stock other than HKS M40iL gapped at .022 and the WMI.

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Default 08-15-2018, 07:59 AM

Hey guys. I'll be ordering my JB4 soon and wanted some advice or thoughts. I currently have torque motorsport air filters, HKS45mil gapped at .27, JBL ******** and JunBL EVC *** and lap3 chip. Last Saturday I did a dyno run and the numbers were great 386whp and 463 torque. Now like I mentioned earlier want to try JB4, but I would like to know if by using JB4 will my car be over 415whp or more. It seems people are getting pretty good numbers with gist plugs and the system. Any thought or ideas are welcomed.

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Default 08-15-2018, 08:29 AM

With our fuel wires on you'll make more power for sure.


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Default 08-15-2018, 08:48 AM

Any further updates needed? Or I should be okay with what I have minus the Lap3 and then add the JB4. Also, if I do need to take it to Kia just remove the fuel line and JB4?
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Default 08-15-2018, 08:58 AM

KIA will void your warranty for the exhaust changes, for the intake changes, for any tuning products they see on the car.

On the JB4 once installed with the fuel wires post a log on say map2 and lets evaluate your hard parts and see how the logs look.


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Default 08-16-2018, 07:46 AM

Getting a bit quicker. Our rough prototype intake added around .1th/1mph, so far.
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